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Pet peeve, games that won't let you save (beehaw.org)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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I wish all games would just let you save whenever you want to! Why is using checkpoints and auto saves so common?

At least add a quit and save option if you want to avoid save scumming.

These days I just want to be able to squeeze in some gaming whenever I can even if it's just quick sessions. That's annoyingly hard in games that won't let you save.

I wonder what the reason for this is?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I get what you're saying, but save scumming is a pretty easy trap to fall into.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago (1 children)

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I agree, though I think part of why that is is that so few games make failure interesting. The only one I can think of that truly accomplished making failure compelling is Disco Elysium.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (1 children)

I'm perfectly fine with it being a setting you can disable, but I do personally strongly prefer a game to enforce some kind of save restriction.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Again, I see the desire to savescum as a symptom more than anything else. If you find yourself reaching for the quickload button, it's because the game didn't make it interesting enough to keep going despite something going wrong.

This is at least the case for choice-based situations, where it's incredibly common for there to be an "optimal route" and for the alternative or failure-state to be much inferior in both rewards and enjoyment.

For games where overcoming a challenge is the primary experience, such a beating a Dark Souls boss, then sure. Being able to quicksave at the start of each phase of a boss would be bad since the point is to overcome the challenge of managing to scrape through the entire fight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 year ago

I think that's a matter of preference. I don't think many video games have good writing (even compared to a lot of casual popular "beach read" type books), so I get my story telling from however many audiobooks I can squeeze into 2x 40-50 hours a week. I want challenges in games and I want distinct fail states to punish failure.