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These words are included in the official CNN transcript too: https://transcripts.cnn.com/show/cnr/date/2025-01-19/segment/05
this post was submitted on 20 Jan 2025
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A month ago or there abouts, someone posted the statistical breakdown of voting in the last election to Reddit. In the swing states (only the swing states) there was a larger than normal number of ballots where the only thing voted on was the presidential election (Ie not senate or local things). He proposed that Elon had used data from his lottery to select people who he thought were in it for the money and wouldn't actually vote and voted on their behalf. He made quite a compelling argument.
I remember reading about that too, but it seems kind of contrived for two reasons.
First of all, we all know it's very easy to lie with statistics. Even if the statistics did seem damning (which is debatable when I read it), that could be from manipulation.
Second, the scheme described would fall apart completely with even a SINGLE recount in ONE swing state. Even just a county wide recount would make the whole house of cards fall apart.
The fact that the current administration has done nothing about this, despite access to some of the best data, analysts, and intelligence in the world, seems to imply that it is most likely not true.
Edit: also the explanation for the hack is that a number of machines were captured and reverse engineered, then replaced only after a wide hack was figured out. If the machine and software are built remotely intelligently, that shouldn't matter at all. You're telling me that a state of the art voting machine, built for maximum security and audit power, isn't built with that in mind? It's possible but very unlikely.
Yeah, entrenched democrats in power couldn't possibly be feckless idiots 🙄
The intelligence of the previous administration has been proven repeatedly.
Their strategic stance with China, the response to COVID-19, and the excellent intelligence on the Russian buildup and plan for invasion are all examples of the intelligence quality and rational decision making of the current administration.
Yes they're a bunch of neoliberal bastards. No they do not have our best interests at heart. But they're rational intelligent people.
I would agree that it seems unlikely, you know, if he didn't admit it publicly.
What he is saying there really isn't an admission of voter fraud
Are you high?
I wish. I just don't think this is really an objective admission of guilt. He says a lot of stupid stuff, and a lot of those things are admissions of guilt. This could just be his usual rambling.
It could be true, but I do not think these words are conclusive
On the last point there is a precedent to not bother when the Supreme Court is stacked against you, and the Supreme Court of 2000 was outright balanced compared to the kook show of today
When George w won Florida under fairly suspect terms in 2000 gore pushed it a bit and probably should’ve pushed it more. The recount was sketch as fuck, the margin was literally like 500 votes for the entire state, it was later found that a bunch of counties never actually did the recount, George’s brother was the governor, his cousin at Fox News made the first call that Florida and the election went to him, just a lot of fuckery all around. And there was a lot more to it than that but that’s the stuff they couldn’t bring up in court for various reasons.
Gore pushed back and went to the Supreme Court with it and lost.
So say there was strong evidence beyond major statistical anomalies. Do you think the stacked court system isn’t going to do everything possible to shoot down anything possible to actually litigating it? The democrats are well aware the only chance they would possibly have is if they literally had the most airtight evidence known to man of fraud, like elon himself admitting fraud with all the receipts to back it up, and even then they’d probably hit some kind of roadblock
Anyway I think what people are referring to is this letter about bullet ballots:
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
It’s an interesting point that is unverifiable and could only be investigated by the current admin but see above. Given they only have about 5 hours left and frankly trump has been acting as president since he was elected anyway I don’t think it would matter even if the above was moot
I will say that I think the discourse around the 2000 elections is generally very flawed. The SC ruled that you cannot do recounts only of select counties, which is a ruling that is actually pretty fair and reasonable. Furthermore, Florida later did a full recount and Bush won the state.
So like fine, you have to review the whole state? Fine. But then address the other nonsense too. Address that tens of thousands of paper ballots were incompatible with machine counting and somehow had to be discarded even though they were easily human verifiable. Explain why these ballots were 3x more likely to be discarded in precincts that had a black majority.
Explain why NORC reviewed the ballots that voting machines rejected from the entire state and found it would’ve resulted in a gore win, albeit a very thin one
Source on the gore win?
https://archive.org/details/battleforflorida0000unse/page/n9/mode/2up
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You have to log in to borrow it, sorry. The norc data is also freely available via most university libraries if you have access to one though
At least Biden can feel good because he did his best /s
I would not trust the Biden administration to act in the people's best interests on this matter, it's entirely possible that any scrutiny on the 2024 election got handwaived due to Democrats not wanting to look like Trump-esque sore losers.
I don't think that's a rational or reasonable view on the matter. From the previous administration's perspective, it is in their best interest to expose and recount if there really was voter fraud from every angle.
Or it's true and they don't want to create the chaos that would ensue from releasing that information and starting a civil war.
Hard to say when things like this exist. https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324-1.pdf
Fwiw I recall seeing someone make the same analysis about high numbers of President-only ballots, only they reached a much less conspiratorial conclusion to explain it. I forget what the explanation was, but if multiple different people are analysing the same data in the same way, especially if their explanation is different, it lends credence to the idea that the analysis itself is fair.
That was complete bullshit. The numbers didn't check out. The "only swing state" thing wasn't true and it was pretty easy to verify.
If he didn't just admit it publicly id agree that it is far fetched.
I hate giving him the benefit of the doubt:
Dudes never been able to stay on track when talking and tangents harder than I do off my meds. Dude started to praise Elon and his computers and his barely-functional mind connected computers to voting machines so that just got slotted right the fuck in there
Too many people who habe actual interest in finding it haven't been able to, election fraud is very unlikely here sadly
I would not be surprised in the slightest.
I recall seeing something similar to that but never being able to find anything vetted on it.
Id hate to sound like an election conspiracy theorist but there was a lot of conversation around star link and it being used for the voting machines. Another thing I personally was never able to confirm.
I don't think the star link thing would work. It's encrypted... Right???
https://freespeechforpeople.org/wp-content/uploads/2024/11/letter-to-vp-harris-111324-1.pdf
Who knows what could have happened tbh.
https://substack.com/home/post/p-151721941
That seems like the one.
Link?