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It irks me when people order delivery when the roads are unsafe - no one should have to put their life on the line like that. I know some people rely on it, though. The snow has been terrible here for days and Meals on Wheels has been canceled so I cooked a big pot roast today to share with elderly neighbors. We've all gotta look out for eachother.
I mean, it's still optional, per driver. Once it snowed so much my little sedan was stuck at work. Tried hard to dig/push it out with no luck. Ordered a ride share even though it was snowing, icy, and late at night. Driver was genuinely happy for the work. There were obviously less of them on the road, so he had his pick of rides and I'm sure got bonuses for them. Ironically, he showed up in another small sedan (but with chains and 4-wheel drive)...
I mean theres nothing that unsafe about the roads in the picture. Thats like regular for a lot of places and people don't just stop living. I worked as a delivery driver and had to drive in way worse conditions, whats shown wouldnt even have registered as a hazard at all.
It's safe when infrastructure exists, people used to snow, and everyone has winter tires.
This. The entire state of Texas shut down for an entire week, and people literally died in their homes over 2 inches of snow in 2021. 2 fucking inches.
If your local area doesn't have the infrastructure in place to support winter weather conditions, any snowfall at all may as well be a 4 ft blizzard.
We did do that once as bored teenagers on an off day back in maybe 2006. Though the pizza shop let us know it was going to take about two hours, which we were totally cool with, and tipped the driver like 20 bucks (on top of a $15 order) because we knew it was probably hell getting there.
Sometimes you just gotta do what you gotta do, I get that. But if you're gonna be doing that, please tip your drivers very generously and give them plenty of time and don't be an asshole to them :)
I don't see how that's the customer's responsibility. The order should be rejected by door dash if they can't safely deliver.
There's always someone else we can blame. Door Dash execs can just say if they don't deliver then one of their competitors will. Everyone's being shitty and it's no one's fault.
If youre driving for doordash you already aren't in a good financial situation. If they tip large (keep in mind on doordash a good tip is anything above $5 because tips on doordash are fucking garbage) youre going to be incentivized to take it to feed your family another day.
Source: I was a DD driver for 2 years and it sucked shit.
I mean, the delivery people need to get paid, right?
That's kind of the cruelty of capitalism. You can coerce people do unsafe or unpleasant things, but it gets framed as a favour because hey they're getting paid.
Whereas if the person you were paying was truly comfortable and didn't need money for survival, there is a chance that they would forego working on that kind of night.
I'll say no if I need to, there are always other jobs. They're renting your time not your life, you can tell them no.
There are other jobs, but the market isn't homogeneous or liquid. The jobs available to a specific person may not pay enough, be stable enough, may not be close enough, or may not like the person for bullshit reasons or expect some specific qualifications.
I can just get another job, because I know all these things are similar for me at other businesses in my industry.
That's a nice thought but it's sadly not how reality works for many people who are living paycheck to paycheck.
A delivery driver is already towards the bottom of the job ladder
Not many can say "I can be without work for a week or two while I look for a better/safer job"
Can they say no? Yes, can they really say no? Probably not
Well they'd be in just as bad a situation if no one ordered at all for a week. Theyre without income either way. I honestly think its better for doordash and ubereats drivers if people still order in poor weather. Pizza places on the other hand where the driver may at least be making some sort of flat rate, they may just prefer to sit there all shift with no orders.
They would only be in a bad situation because minimum wage is low and they will be missing tips.
A pizza driver in the US is guaranteed at least minimum wage while they are on the clock.
To my knowledge, Uber style delivery services are not going to fire you for not working a night.
The typical pizza place has managers that will force workers to work. If you are forced to work and someone calls in a pizza, you are forced to deliver.
Im sure there are people out there that have 4x4s and enjoy the extra tips in the hazardous conditions.
But you could also be risking some poor soul life that's being forced to deliver in their Honda civic.
Those people can't say no to their managers in fear of being fired. It's what the whole comment was about. They can't quit, fired could be worse.
Those dollars won't mean much when they're being buried. I lost an employee many years ago when the company insisted we go into the office during an ice storm and he swirved into a tractor trailer. It was an entirely senseless and avoidable death.