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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] [email protected] -5 points 22 hours ago (2 children)

I think people are taking this stuff too personally - between zuck and these other tech ceos caving to the right wing social politics.

Fact is trump won the election, and hes the dictator of the usa now. He has legal immunity and the ability to kill anyone he wants officially, as well as full party control of all 3 branches of govt and the governers. He could scrap the constitution if he wanted to, all hed have to do is privately threaten to assasinate anyone that doesnt go along with his plans.

A private conversation has likely happened with these CEOs that effectively went "you need to help us maintain control of the govt or were going to take measures against you."

Its nothing personal, for all we know their lives are literally on the line.

For all the talk abt small govt. The republicans have made the usa the most powerful federal govt of any western nation.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 21 hours ago (1 children)

I disagree. While I understand to some extent the idea, I also think these people have agency and choice. I live in Germany, and the discussion "did people under Nazis really have a choice?" is probably one of the most heated topics in the historical discourse. Short answer, yes they had to some degree. You don't have to cave in before the new overlord, and while we all obviously have to adapt to some extent, we don't have to praise them.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 13 hours ago

while we all obviously have to adapt to some extent, we don’t have to praise them

I think this is the key point. There's a world of difference between reluctantly complying with laws you might not like and going out of your way to publicly praise the regime. He could have stayed quiet. It would have cost him literally nothing to make no comment whatsoever.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 20 hours ago

There's plenty of mail & vpn services out there, so why bother sticking with the one you don't agree with ideologically?