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When called out on it, they then doubled down on this dogshit take: https://archive.ph/quYyb

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[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

CEOs having a "who can suck off Trump best" contest?

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 hour ago

This is how it's feeling like, last few weeks. I'll somehow need to justify keeping my proton plan

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

Dems had a choice between the progressive wing (Bernie Sanders, etc), versus corporate Dems, but in the end money won and constituents lost.

Not wrong there…

[–] [email protected] 18 points 1 hour ago

Yeah, that's true. But going on to say 'therefore support Trump' is ... not good.

I think it's unwise for Proton to try to support any political party. Agreeing or disagreeing with decisions and policies is fair and good; but to say "this is the party who supports the little guy" is a bullshit and unnecessarily divisive.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 23 minutes ago

What Trump really means here is "big tech has run amok they need to kiss my ring first and then they can do whatever the fuck they like". He has identified big tech companies as a key component to cement his future dictatorship and he is not wrong.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 24 minutes ago

For my fellow German readers: An affordable green alternative to Proton hosted in Berlin is Posteo. https://posteo.de 1€ / month to have your mail hosted by a non-shitty company is a small price.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 hour ago (1 children)

This is unbelievably disappointing. Just canceled my annual membership (which was set to renew in ~2 weeks).

Looks like I'll be moving to Tuta tomorrow.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 40 minutes ago

Okay I'm researching tuta now .. I have a 2 year sub already though. Was literally in the process of moving from Gmail. Self hosted is tough for me. I guess this is the new normal. Milkshake duck....

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 hour ago

Why are there no reports and outrage over the pick of Gail Slater? Doesn't she fit the standard outrage mold? She does seem to be pretty vehemetly anti-big tech. She has driven monopoly cases against VISA, Google and Apple. Surprisingly sober choice as assistant attorney general.

If this is suppose to be "Full MAGA", then i don't understand where you draw lines.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 2 hours ago (2 children)

Fuck Proton than.

What's a good alternative I can use?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 29 minutes ago

God damnit. I just swotched to Proton this week

[–] [email protected] 1 points 25 minutes ago

Riseup and Disroot are run by collectives, Tuta uses a similar business model to Proton, Mailbox.org + Guard looks decent as well and more open than either Proton or Tuta

[–] [email protected] 19 points 3 hours ago

It seems the guy keeps digging a bigger and bigger hole for himself. Sigh...

[–] [email protected] 23 points 4 hours ago

By the “little guys” he means himself.

By himself he means corporate CEOs.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 5 hours ago (1 children)

I migrated my custom domains to Tuta and canceled my Proton subscription as a result of all of this.

And Proton had fucking better give me a prorated refund.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 39 minutes ago

I need to do this. I hope I can get my money back but they can choke on it if not I guess.

[–] [email protected] 29 points 5 hours ago (3 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 30 minutes ago

I don't think it's way different. Yeah he's not praising Trump here, but he's certainly not taking a stance against him either, more trying to calm down worried people about Trump being in control now.

[–] [email protected] 10 points 3 hours ago* (last edited 3 hours ago)

I checked archive and it wasn’t saved to the wayback machine so I added it in case proton deletes it. https://web.archive.org/web/20250115163936/https://proton.me/blog/trump-control-nsa-privacy

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 hours ago

That’s a nice one to rub Andy’s nose in. I’ll put that one in my cancellation note.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 4 hours ago

Fucking pathetic

[–] [email protected] 32 points 6 hours ago (2 children)

Wow. And I had just about now completed moving my addresses over, fucking hell

Mullvad then I guess?

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 hours ago

One of my favourite things about using an email relay is how easy it was to change email addresses. Unfortunately I was changing to Proton. Fortunately I was using my own domain! Unfortunately I pre-paid 2 years.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 hours ago (2 children)

Same! And there's not a good email alternative that's as popular

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 hour ago

I just switched to purelymail and I am so far pretty happy with it. Plus its way cheaper.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 hours ago* (last edited 2 hours ago)

Tuta is decent. I have been using them for a long time every since proton tried gas-lighting everyone about javascript based browser interface being secure for e2ee.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 hour ago (3 children)

Wait... I thought Proton was owned by Valve.

Oh well, anyone know a cheap yet reliable VPN I can switch too?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 29 minutes ago

Mullvad VPN. The one and only VPN recommandation i give.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 hour ago

The Proton compatibility layer is a valve thing. Proton Mail/VPN/Pass and so on are from the Proton company.

A bit of an unfortunate name.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 hour ago* (last edited 1 hour ago)

Azire is great, they just dont have port forwarding. For that reason I use airvpn witch is okay too.

[edit] whoa, just noticed they got bought by malwarebytes. There goes that recommendation.

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