Privacy has become a very important issue in modern society, with companies and governments constantly abusing their power, more and more people are waking up to the importance of digital privacy.
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Unnecessary and deeply concerning bow to the new "king"
Update: position got backed up by an official Proton post on Mastodon, it's an official Proton statement now. https://mastodon.social/@protonprivacy/113833073219145503
Update 2, plot-twist: they removed this response from Mastodon - seems they realize it exploded into their face!
I think the big difference is what the companies stand for.
If the CEO of The Anti-Spyware Company comes out in support of Spyware, is that not significantly worse than the CEO of The Spyware Company doing the same?
I supported The Anti-Spyware companies because of what they believed in. Now that is in question.
FWIW I don't use Proton but switching to it was in my 2025 plans. Not so sure about that anymore..
~~Dude is not a "CEO"~~, hes one of five board members of the Non-Profit organization that owns Proton AG.
Edit: Yea okay hes still "CEO", but like he isn't the sole owner, or some dictator.
Yes he is. You are factually incorrect. You can see it from their official page too
Good to know, I was just going off what OP said
FYI, that user is incorrect. Yen is both the founder and CEO of Proton.
Thanks for the update! I guess I shouldn't have taken him at his screenshot
Happy to help! This is already an important conversation and we need to be all caught up on the basics at least :)
Yea, I maybe misunderstood what the non-profit structure meant. He is still "CEO", but my point was that he isn't the sole owner, or some dictator. Even if he want to start spying on people, he still needs to get other board members of the non-profit to agree.
Fastmail is pretty great :)
Thanks for the tip, I'll check it out!
All right then replace support of Spyware with "praise for The Spyware Company"
Spyware was just an example? Proton is all about privacy and this board member is saying good things about a guy who doesn't think us peasants should have any.
I agree that this isn't the worst thing to ever happen. But I also agree with the people saying he shouldn't have said anything.
NextCloud is almost an "out of the box" experience for all of these.
Nextcloud isnt end to end encrypted.
Between your machine, and a machine you control, via ssl?