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Hurling ordure at the TREACLES, especially those closely related to LessWrong.

AI-Industrial-Complex grift is fine as long as it sufficiently relates to the AI doom from the TREACLES. (Though TechTakes may be more suitable.)

This is sneer club, not debate club. Unless it's amusing debate.

[Especially don't debate the race scientists, if any sneak in - we ban and delete them as unsuitable for the server.]

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Lightcone needs your funding for LessWrong! because they had to give the FTX money back (awful.systems)

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Funding beg: (The) Lightcone is nothing without its people: LW + Lighthaven's big fundraiser
The story: Sam Bankman-Fried funded a group with racist ties. FTX wants its $5m back

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

Open Phil generally seems to be avoiding funding anything that might have unacceptable reputational costs for Dustin Moskovitz

"reputational cost" eh? Let's see Mr. Moskovitz's reasoning in his own words:

Spoiler - It's not just about PR risk

But I do want agency over our grants. As much as the whole debate has been framed (by everyone else) as reputation risk, I care about where I believe my responsibility lies, and where the money comes from has mattered. I don't want to wake up anymore to somebody I personally loathe getting platformed only to discover I paid for the platform. That fact matters to me.

I cannot control what the EA community chooses for itself norm-wise, but I can control whether I fuel it.

I've long taken for granted that I am not going to live in integrity with your values and the actions you think are best for the world. I'm only trying to get back into integrity with my own.

If you look at my comments here and in my post, I've elaborated on other issues quite a few times and people keep ignoring those comments and projecting "PR risk" on to everything. ~~I feel incapable of being heard correctly at this point, so I guess it was a mistake to speak up at all and I'm going to stop now.~~ [Sorry I got frustrated; everyone is trying their best to do the most good here] I would appreciate if people did not paraphrase me from these comments and instead used actual quotes.

again, beyond "reputational risks", which narrows the mind too much on what is going on here

“PR risk” is an unnecessarily narrow mental frame for why we’re focusing.

I guess "we're too racist and weird for even a Facebook exec" doesn't have quite the same ring to it though.