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[–] [email protected] 10 points 6 days ago (3 children)

I feel bad for Haiti, they’ve been dealt a shit hand from the very beginning. But it’s been crisis after crisis since Spanish times.

And for the tech stuff, Vannevar Bush’s 1947 Atlantic article gets you 95% of the way there.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 6 days ago (1 children)

For sure. It's kind of fascinating, in a grim way, to contrast Haiti's revolutionary course with the US, where basically every major power was cool with them a few years after their revolution.

One wonders how history would be different if the nations of the world had spent centuries screwing the US with debt and propping up their worst leaders and left Haiti to do its own thing.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 6 days ago

The difference was that the US was a white bourgeois revolution by slavers and imperialists trying to start a new empire, seperate from their original one while Haiti was a black slave revolution against imperial powers. One of those is business as usual while the other is a fundamental threat to the status quo.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

Yeah, and it feels like if anyone deserves an easy ride, the one successful slave revolt in history should be it.

Link to the mentioned article, assuming you actually meant 45: https://www.theatlantic.com/magazine/archive/1945/07/as-we-may-think/303881/

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago (1 children)

But it’s been crisis after crisis since Spanish times.

I'd like to clarify that Haiti was actually a French colony. And a major contributing factor to Haiti's ongoing problems is the fact that France convinced the other world powers at the time to demand that Haiti pay France reparations for the revolution.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 6 days ago* (last edited 6 days ago)

The entire island of Hispaniola was Spanish until the 17th century. Shirt was pretty dire back then too.

But yeah, the French are the major power that fucked them good until the Monroe doctrine took over.