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In a surprising turn of events, a well-known flat-earther conceded that his long-held conspiracy theory was incorrect after embarking on a 9,000-mile journey to Antarctica.

YouTuber Jeran Campanella traveled to the southernmost continent to witness a 24-hour sun - a phenomenon that would be impossible if the Earth were flat.

"I realize that I'll be called a shill for just saying that and you know what, if you're a shill for being honest so be it - I honestly believed there was no 24-hour sun... I honestly now believe there is. That's it," added Campanella.

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Campanella still didn't fully embrace the globe Earth model: “I won’t say the Earth is a perfect sphere,” then said, after first admitting he was wrong.

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The expedition was part of the Final Experiment project, organized by Colorado pastor Will Duffy, who "hopes to end the debate over the shape of the Earth."

The expedition was part of the Final Experiment project, organized by Colorado pastor Will Duffy, who "hopes to end the debate over the shape of the Earth."

He arranged an expedition in which four flat Earthers and four "globe Earthers" were flown to Antarctica to witness the continent's midnight Sun. Antarctica's Midnight Sun is one of many proofs that the Earth is spherical. It can only occur on a tilted and rotating sphere, and the axial tilt during summer positions the South Pole to face the Sun continuously for 24 hours.

Flat Earthers often claim that the Antarctic Treaty of 1959 prevents civilians from visiting the southernmost continent in an attempt to hide the true shape of planet Earth. However, Pastor Duffy wanted to demonstrate that this wasn't the case.

"I created The Final Experiment to end this debate, once and for all. After we go to Antarctica, no one has to waste any more time debating the shape of the Earth," Duffy declared in a statement. "This is, of course, assuming that the entire "experiment" isn't just an elaborate prank designed to fool us 'globe Earthers.' It seems highly unlikely, but we'll keep you posted if anything changes – not that we're trying to sound conspiratorial or paranoid."

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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (1 children)

All I know is that if I was a hiring manager for any position above fry cook, my first question for potential hires would be to ask if they believe the earth is round. If they answer "no" it would save me a lot of time.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago (2 children)

can't ask people about their personal beliefs directly. you could form it from a series of questions though.

  • are you willing to travel across the globe for client needs?
  • how many flights would it take you to get from here to x if you flew around the planet?
  • what shape is our planet?
[–] [email protected] 1 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago) (1 children)

are you willing to travel across the globe for client needs?

No, I have a fear of planes and enjoy spending time with my family after work. Is this required to get this assistant manager job at your McDonald's branch?

how many flights would it take you to get from here to x if you flew around the planet?

Sorry but I already told you I'm afraid to fly, please stop talking about it. Do you ask white people the same type of questions?

what shape is our planet?

I'll be contacting a lawyer about this.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 11 hours ago

yeah, I wouldn't care if you think we lived on mars for any job at a McDonnell's. asking would be super pointless. If you were interviewing for a position in corporate accounting, different story.

also, by bringing race into the discussion itself would immediately end further questioning and the interview would be over.

I actually interviewed a person who did this, and they pretty much asked exactly what you asked. I politely ended the interview and told them we might reach out for another interview. we did not because they tainted the relationship by implying they were not getting appropriate treatment without knowing how other interviews were handled.

I'm a very difficult interviewer and I push applicants very hard, because the positions they will be holding are high stress high impact. I need to see how they deal under immense pressure and sometimes people take it personally. I get it, emotions run high and people snap back. that's not who I'm looking for. I want high functioning employees that can perform their duties under stress.

generally I stay far away from personal questions other than ice breakers like, favorite TV show right now, what kind of projects do you like to work on, if you had a super power what would it be.

I can read people very well and usually find the right people for the position.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (2 children)

How about "Is the earth round?" It's an objective fact, not a question about beliefs.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

How would you prove the Earth is round to a 6 year old?

[–] [email protected] -5 points 1 day ago (2 children)

is the earth round can be construed the same way as, "is Jesus real?".

it's different than asking "what shape is our planet" because the onus to answer is on the interviewee. A similar question for religion would be, "who is Jesus". note the term "is" leading an individual to provide their own opinion of who Jesus is vs "was" describing who Jesus was historically.

facts have nothing to do with personal beliefs, which are protected by the first amendment. you cannot ask someone about their personal beliefs and then reject their application based on those beliefs.

you can however ask them for factual evidence that may lead to them to give up personal prejudices freely. hence giving them an open-ended question that allows them to elaborate on who they are(individual) instead of what they are(position).

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 day ago (2 children)

is the earth round can be construed the same way as, “is Jesus real?”.

No it can't. One is a proven fact with huge testable evidence. The other is a faith with no testable evidence.

Also one is not a religion and not in anyway protected by law.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

As far as I read their comment, @[email protected] did not intend to compare science and religion, but to discuss interview techniques, using geography and religion as examples.

"Is the earth round?" and "Is Jesus real?" are both closed questions that can only be answered with "yes" or "no".

"What is the shape of the earth?" and "Who is Jesus?" are both open questions that call for a statement.

I don't get their argumentation, why open questions are preferable to closed ones because of the first amandement, but agree nonetheless. Closed questions cut off the interviewee and are a very bad interview technique.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 17 hours ago

People including me are responding to.

can’t ask people about their personal beliefs directly.

Can't vs should not is where this differs.

And when that is followed with comparison between facts and belief indicating they are the same. Then folks are correctly calling bullshit.

In the US and most of Europe, asking is Jesus real or who is Jesus is a crime.

Asking is the world spherical is not only legal. It is entirely moral. How effective it is was not expressed in the original comment. Just the suggestion, you cannot ask about geological knowledge.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 day ago

I don't understand explain it better.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 day ago

is the earth round can be construed the same way as, "is Jesus real?"

Not legally in the US. And not... factually anywhere.