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Anthropic and Apollo astounded to find that a chatbot will lie to you if you tell it to lie to you (pivot-to-ai.com)

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[–] [email protected] 15 points 21 hours ago* (last edited 21 hours ago) (2 children)

Slate Scott just wrote about a billion words of extra rigorous prompt-anthropomorphizing fanfiction on the subject of the paper, he called the article When Claude Fights Back.

Can't help but wonder if he's just a critihype enabling useful idiot who refuses to know better or if he's being purposefully dishonest to proselytize people into his brand of AI doomerism and EA, or if the difference is meaningful.

edit: The claude syllogistic scratchpad also makes an appearance, it's that thing where we pretend that they have a module that gives you access to the LLM's inner monologue complete with privacy settings, instead of just recording the result of someone prompting a variation of "So what were you thinking when you wrote so and so, remember no one can read what you reply here". Que a bunch of people in the comments moving straight into wondering if Claude has qualia.

[–] [email protected] 9 points 13 hours ago

I feel like "qualia" is both an interesting concept, and a buzzword that has rapidly grown to indicate people who need to be aggressively ignored.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 20 hours ago* (last edited 20 hours ago) (3 children)

I used to think that comparing LLMs to people was dumb, because LLMs are just feed-forward networks--basically seven bipartite graphs in a trench coat--that are incapable of introspection.

However, I'm coming around to the notion that some of our drive-by visitors have a brain that's seven cells deep.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 5 hours ago

We just are very good at anthropomorphizing. We created pet rocks for example (also showing that capitalism is more than happy to jump into this)

[–] [email protected] 5 points 14 hours ago* (last edited 14 hours ago)

I feel attacked.
Seriously I hate the idea that my comments are replies to engagement bots. I'm sure some are but my seven cells are too busy to work out which ones.

edit: cell

[–] [email protected] 7 points 19 hours ago

Yeah, general artificial intelligence LLMs are definitely not. Human level intelligence, though... yeah, that depends on what particular human you're talking about.

(Though, to be fair, this isn't limited to LLMs... it also applies to Eliza, for instance, or your average lump of granite.)