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Biden called out supermarkets for price gouuging and got literally thousands of grocery prices lowered immediately afterward.
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/24/icymi-target-walmart-and-other-grocery-chains-heed-president-bidens-call-to-lower-prices/
Yeah, but they didn't have a 24/7 propaganda network pipe it directly into my brain, so its their fault.
Um, yes.
Democratic media strategies haven't changed since the 90s, and that's a problem. Also, Trump did the independent media circuit and Kamala just didn't. In the few sit down interviews Kamala did, her top priority was message discipline, not connecting with voters. Every answer sounded like a stump speech. For all of Trump's lack of humanity, he came off as far more relatable than Kamala.
The entire campaign model used by the Democrats needs to be shredded. The consultants that have failed over and over and over need to be gone. Democrats need to deliver better for the working class, and they have to get much better at bragging about it. They can't continue to dull their message so as not to offend wealthy donors.
Voters need a narrative, and narratives need an enemy. Republicans have no problem finding an enemy, they just pick a disadvantaged group and go at it. Democrats must take on the corporate and wealthy interests that are legitimately keeping workers down, and they must do it loudly. That's the only narrative available to them. The strategy of beating up the targets the Republicans chose, but not as much, is a total loser.
Gas prices have been lower than average too.
Still, Dems were unable to communicate this to voters
yesss truth. helpful, effective policies and standoffish PR
Lmao this is like raising prices in october to 'slash' them for black friday sales. "Hey everybody, remember last month when grocery prices got up to 3 times as high as when i took office? I had some really good phone calls with my corporate donors and we agreed that itd be a good pr move if we could announce theyre going back 'down' to 2.75x as much!"
not even close, that's all completely off the mark.
a literal global pandemic happened, and US food production companies were found responsible for price gouging simply for profit because they thought everyone would be too distracted by dying from the pandemic.
you combine price gouging, which Biden publicly exposed and told the worst companies to stop doing, and they did revert prices, in with shrinkflation, which Biden set up a regulatory committee specifically to combat, with Russia's War driving up energy prices, and Biden still was able to bring down inflation within a couple years to normal enough levels that the treasury stopped raising interest rates. he brought it down from 14% to about 2.
Yes, it is good that Biden was able to lower grocery prices and gas prices.
you wanted lower prices. Biden gave you lower prices.
Biden doesn't set grocery or energy prices, but he can bring them down as much as possible despite a service industry attacked by Trump, a pandemic killing and isolating the work force attacked and dismantled by Trump, and an aggressive War from a leading energy producer that will lead to more wars and higher prices with the support Trump has pledged to Putin.
Trump raised prices.
Biden brought the prices back down.
have fun with your reelected markups.
Exactly, US food companies were found guilty of price gouging, and instead of regulating prices or introducing any legal consequences whatsoever, Biden wagged his finger and supposedly said "Hey jack, dont fuck people over quite as much" and so prices didnt go back down to what they should be, or what they had been, they went down a barely noticeable percentage from a ridiculous all time high. Also what you people dont seen to ever understand, someone criticizing biden is NOT automatically defending trump, or saying hed do better. Theyre saying in the eyes of most people, Biden did fuck all and it wasnt enough (clearly). But keep licking the old mans boots because that worked super well last election. You can blame everyone else but i blame you dumbass die hard democrat party/ biden defenders who think they can do no wrong.
"instead of regulating prices"
literally what they're trying to regulate with the legislation he introduced
you can't just regulate private companies for no reason.
"Biden wagged his finger and supposedly said "Hey jack, dont fuck people over quite as much" and'
and it worked and the prices went down.
Love that you used "hey Jack"by the way, I've been really getting into that lately.
"percentage from a ridiculous all time high.'
ehgs down from $4 to less than $1 because of a study done that show their price gouging....so... that significant well then
"someone criticizing biden is NOT automatically defending trump"
couldn't care less about this tangent.
and then it looks like you're just making shit up after that because you don't have any evidence, facts or logic to draw on.
worrrd
Corporations: Here's a press release saying we intend to lower prices.
Biden: I'm gonna take credit for their PR move.
what are you talking about?
Biden released a billion barrels of gas and gas prices went down.
I mean, in the link Biden was taking credit for corporations' press releases about not gouging prices as severely as they had been for the previous three years when Biden just sat back and watched.
The record oil production that he's so proud of regardless of price is a different thing entirely.
where?
You're saying that Biden was taking credit for the corporations lowering the price of gas, while what happened was that Biden released a billion barrel of oil and then gas prices went down.
No, that's not what I'm saying. Did you even read the headline of the link you posted? I was talking about the content of the link you posted, which doesn't even mention gasoline.
You either didn't read what you linked to, or you have decided that you want to lie about me and my position. And since we've talked before, I'm not going to make the mistake of giving you the benefit of the doubt again. You lied about my position, and since I replied to your diversion about gas prices, you're going to continue lying and pretending that I was always talking about gas prices.
No. Go pull this shit on someone else.
"Go pull this shit..."
facts?
okay.
i will go pull "facts" again.
Thank you for confirming that my decision to not give you the benefit of the doubt was correct.
"Thank you..."
you're welcome!
"...was correct"
you were incorrect, since
biden lowered grocery prices:
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2024/05/24/icymi-target-walmart-and-other-grocery-chains-heed-president-bidens-call-to-lower-prices/
and
biden lowered gas prices:
https://www.msnbc.com/rachel-maddow-show/maddowblog/republicans-enraged-bidens-efforts-keep-gas-prices-lower-rcna153953
but that's okay! you'll be fine.
He did neither, the president does not have those capabilities.
I made no claims regarding gas prices, and already addressed your link about grocery prices.
you made incorrect claims about the grocery prices that I corrected.
I've addressed both issues relevant to the original post and your comment, you don't have a lick of evidence.
Why you so salty, crab?
No, you immediately lied about my position and pretended that I was talking about gas prices.
You've done nothing of the sort.
"you immediately lied..."
incorrect, and you still aren't providing any evidence.
"You've done nothing of the sort."
it sounds like you got a little too excited to read the original post.
Claims that Democrats did not address grocery prices and gas are incorrect.
biden directly provided solutions for both of those issues.
I provided the evidence for that.
If you are not talking about the article, and besides your inaccurate claims that I'm somehow "lying" by providing facts, you should try answering my first question:
what are you talking about?
You provided a press release in which the Biden administration took credit for shit they didn't do.
Announcing you've provided facts is not the same as providing facts.
You've done nothing but lie and I'm not going to entertain you any longer. Now be smug and wrong in my absence.
"...took credit for shit they didn't do..."
incorrect. but I assume that's obvious since you still have no evidence while I've provided credible sources.
you take being incorrect real personally.
you were wrong and got told.
those are the facts, Jack!