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[–] [email protected] 12 points 1 week ago (4 children)

Have you talked to a lot of servers about it? I have a few friends who are servers who hate the idea of cutting out tips and just making minimum wage because they would make significantly less money.

[–] [email protected] 19 points 1 week ago

Tips were first used as a way for rail lines to avoid having to pay black coach attendants a wage.

It isn't surprising that service workers don't want to abolish tips, since that's primarily how they get paid now - but that doesn't mean we shouldn't abolish them. The owners should have to pay their workers a living wage. By making that the consumer's responsibility, it frees the business owner from the responsibility of paying their workers for their labor.

Tip wages are exploitative, plain and simple.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Crazy thought, really really outside the box lateral thinking type shit, but how about paying them a living wage instead? Seems to work for other industries. I'm not tipping my welder.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I mean, if we're waving a magic wand, I have a huge list of other improvements for society

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago

Legally mandating a minimum wage is not magic. It can be done, other countries have already done it, and the US is already doing it, in other industries. This is really not as far fetched as you make it out to be.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

That's the tipping I like. When I'm getting served. I want to sit at my table and enjoy the whole experience. I want my water refilled, I was to be asked if I want another drink. I want the courses the flow on and off the table. I want to be able to talk about the dishes. Then I want to tip based on how well it all went.

Obligate tipping for counter service is bullshit.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

Exactly. Servers can make bank on tips, especially on holidays.

I don't think we should ban tips, but we also shouldn't let restaurants pay servers under minimum wage and there should be something printed on the bill/POS about tips being appreciated but not required. Also, tips shouldn't be required to be shared, customers should be able to select who gets the tips (waiter, cooking staff, or shared).