this post was submitted on 20 Nov 2024
440 points (97.4% liked)

World News

39110 readers
2376 users here now

A community for discussing events around the World

Rules:

Similarly, if you see posts along these lines, do not engage. Report them, block them, and live a happier life than they do. We see too many slapfights that boil down to "Mom! He's bugging me!" and "I'm not touching you!" Going forward, slapfights will result in removed comments and temp bans to cool off.

We ask that the users report any comment or post that violate the rules, to use critical thinking when reading, posting or commenting. Users that post off-topic spam, advocate violence, have multiple comments or posts removed, weaponize reports or violate the code of conduct will be banned.

All posts and comments will be reviewed on a case-by-case basis. This means that some content that violates the rules may be allowed, while other content that does not violate the rules may be removed. The moderators retain the right to remove any content and ban users.


Lemmy World Partners

News [email protected]

Politics [email protected]

World Politics [email protected]


Recommendations

For Firefox users, there is media bias / propaganda / fact check plugin.

https://addons.mozilla.org/en-US/firefox/addon/media-bias-fact-check/

founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
 

Summary

Ukrainian President Volodymyr Zelensky warned that Ukraine would lose the war if the U.S., its primary military supporter, cuts funding.

Speaking to Fox News, he stressed the importance of unity between the U.S. and Ukraine as Russia accelerates its territorial gains.

Zelensky acknowledged Ukraine’s challenges on the battlefield, despite new U.S. weapon supplies, including long-range missiles and anti-personnel land mines.

He criticized German Chancellor Olaf Scholz for engaging with Putin, calling it a risky move.

Trump has pledged to end the war quickly but offered no specifics.

you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 59 points 4 days ago (7 children)

Give em full air support. If it causes world war 3, it causes world war 3. Fuck it. Avoiding that isn't worth letting Russia just consume its neighbors on a whim - that shit certainly won't stop with Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 21 points 4 days ago (1 children)

if it causes ww3, it will be a lot less bloody war than what will be if russia is allowed to recover and take over next country

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago

There isnt enough North Koreans for that.

[–] [email protected] 22 points 4 days ago (3 children)

Maybe if WW3 breaks out, Biden won't hand over power to the literal fascists that are already making decisions to cause our demise.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Wtf? That's such a casual suggestion to dismantle democracy. Yeah let's do that so we never get a progressive in office /s

[–] [email protected] 10 points 4 days ago (1 children)

If we're going to have an autocracy, it may as well be the one that is still somewhat benevolent to the common man.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

If we're going to have an autocracy

Yeah I'd rather not. I agree if that that were the only two options it would be preferable but I totally disagree that those are the only two options and I think it's extremely dangerous rhetoric to say anyone should be an autocrat. Trump is about to be president and is the biggest threat to American democracy we've seen in anyone's living memory. But he's also about to become deeply unpopular again like every president does after election and particular bad as people start to remember what he's like. That is a far cry from a guarantee that it's over. Irreparable damage will be done but it's just silly to race to the bottom

[–] [email protected] 7 points 4 days ago

It wouldn't be the first time a country did that. It's never ended particularly well though.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago (2 children)

wow yeah I hope we have global nuclear apocalypse so we can avoid the consequences of elections! totally worth.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 days ago

These people are unhinged. This is just Reddit 2.0.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 3 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

I'm glad the traditional American desire to fuck up the world because you feel upset is alive and well. that was really fun in the 2000s.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago

That doesn't sound very good either. I still want a chance to vote in another election. Trump might be able to dismantle it before then but if Biden held on to power it would be immediately dismantled.

[–] [email protected] 20 points 4 days ago (1 children)

Russia is also already instigating it with having North Korean troops in the combat zone. It'll just be a tit-for-tat response.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 days ago (2 children)

Up to 100k North Koreans. I don't care how inept they are, 100k dudes with guns will utterly wreck Ukraine.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 days ago

Incompetent soldiers still consume a great deal of resources, and may become victims of even cheaper drones.

But "cheaper" still requires some money.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 days ago (1 children)

I heard rumors of South Korea sending troops to counter. I don't want world war but that seems fair to me.

[–] foenkyfjutschah 1 points 3 days ago* (last edited 3 days ago)

it would be more fair that every online bellicist (no matter what camp) enlisted voluntarily and got the chance to validate their theories in practice.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 4 days ago* (last edited 4 days ago) (1 children)

Bold stance. Better to bring about world war 3 than let Russia consume its neighbors? I’ll have to sit with that one for a bit.

I grew up with the USSR so maybe I’m not quite ready to throw all earthly civilization into the fire to prevent 20% of that empire from being restored.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 4 days ago (2 children)

What in earth makes you think they will stop there?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 days ago

The way they’re struggling in Ukraine. 3 years for what they thought would be 3 days, and they haven’t accomplished their goal.

Plus, several of the former USSR states are formal NATO members: the Baltics. With Russia struggling to hold the worst 1/3 of Ukraine, what on Earth makes you think they could sustain a war with NATO, proper?

[–] foenkyfjutschah 1 points 3 days ago

what in sky makes you believe they'd be able to continue elsewhere?