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I just saw a headline claiming that 200,000 Jeep/Dodge vehicles are to be recalled.
I loathe Musk as much as anyone but this doesn’t seem to be that unusual.
Except this is the 6th recall this year
How many recalls usually happen for new model vehicles?
On average that number is below 1
In 2023, there were over 1000 different recalls in the US which affected 34 million vehicles (bottom of the page). But just like there are around 170 000 cars that catch on fire in the US per year, which is 465 per day, they just don't make the news because nobody cares if it's not a new and sCaRy electric car - even though they catch fire almost a hundred times less often. Though hybrids are twice as likely than gas cars - mixing gas and batteries doesn't seem to be a good idea.
If you want to know what cars do have recalls though, Car and Driver has collected the most relevant ones. For example, how Dodge has to recall 34000 of the 2025 RAM trucks because they have a faulty ESC.
Other picks:
Most of these you never even know about even if you own that car, because they are "soft" recalls - they get automatically fixed the next time you bring your car to service. But if you don't own one of them, then there is almost no way you will ever hear about them. Unless it's about a Tesla.
Anything other than Ford and Tesla? Somewhere between 1 and 0 per year. With the entire lifetime of the car typically being less than 5
Ford hands out recalls like candy which I'm actually OK with because it means they want to fix their stuff. Mopar also has a lot, but that's because their cars are shit.
Proportions and context. 200K of Jeep is nowhere close to the percentage of the total Cyber trucks produced.
How about “Honda is recalling nearly 1.7 million vehicles due to a steering issue that could increase the risk of a crash”?
Can you at least see how both statements are whataboutism?
Yes that should be more talked about. So that makes this article invalid?
Hang on, give me a few minutes to craft an excuse for why that shouldn't be considered comparable.
The fact that it is less and less unusual is the problem. All manufacturers are making crap, and people are still buying it... That makes no sense to me.
It makes perfectly sense if your choice is crap or another crap.
You don't have to buy the last shinny thing every couple years. Too much consumption everywhere. Overconsuming is like cancer.
US voting System in a nutshell 😂