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Instead of framing it as a question of morality, a matter of logical consistency, and/or an environmental concern, I've started taking an amoralist/egoist approach and simply saying:

"The thought of eating animal products is gross to me, and I don't want to participate in the killing of animals when it's easy for me to avoid"

Which is quite hard to refute, because its about how I feel/my experience. They can question why you feel that way but, if you exclusively respond with 'I statements,' they really have no room to argue. I also feel that this is more likely to persuade people without having to actively encourage them- it has the potential to open an actual dialogue

What are your thoughts? Do you have your own method?

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 days ago

To be fair, being vegan kind of implies you also want everyone else to be vegan, so it makes sense to me that people would get defensive over someone's personal reasons for it as if they're an attack on them for not being vegan.

So if I say "I think it's gross and mean to animals" they (kind of correctly tbh) hear that as "I think you're gross and mean."

Obviously there are better ways to respond to that than arguing that your feelings are invalid lol, but I do understand it