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[–] [email protected] 109 points 2 weeks ago (26 children)
[–] [email protected] 96 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (61 children)

Vegans consume fewer plants than anyone else. It takes a LOT of plants to raise a cow, pig, or chicken. From an economic point of view, meat is a way of refining mountains of cheap, plentiful, safe plant products into a scarce, harmful and addictive luxury product. This comes up a lot, you'd be amazed how many plants rights activists your average vegan runs into.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 week ago (1 children)
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[–] [email protected] 68 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (43 children)

If you think pigs, chickens and cows have the same level of awareness and perception as broccoli, tomatoes or potatoes than you're the potato.

Humans have to eat and with the exception of a few minerals like salt, everything edible to humans is alive on some level. Vegansisn is making an ethical choice about reducing what causes the most pain fear and suffering in another. If I were to develop cancer, a tape worm or a virus should I also allow those living things to thrive as well or does "Uh, now what?" also apply to antibiotics?

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 2 weeks ago (4 children)

I hope they like stones. Hmmm, those crunchy minerals!

[–] [email protected] 36 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

I hope they like stones. Hmmm, those crunchy minerals!

[–] [email protected] 12 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago)

They look like big, good, strong hands, don't they

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 weeks ago
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[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 weeks ago (1 children)

Haha as always, you do what you can

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago

Won't someone think of the plants feelings?!?

[–] [email protected] 10 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Eat fruits, the plants give those to you specifically to eat.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

In the same way that cultists give human sacrifices to Cthulhu specifically to eat.

I'm pretty sure the fruits are screaming too.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (22 children)

The whole deal is that we get to eat the fruit, and in return we provide the seeds within with a nice nitrogen-rich deposition nice and far from the parent plant.

It's not a death cult, it's a sex cult. The fruits might be screaming, but not in pain

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[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (2 children)

What? The fact that plants physically react to being cut has absolutely no bearing on whether they have conscious experience.

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 weeks ago (3 children)

Time to start eating bacteria now, I guess.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 weeks ago* (last edited 2 weeks ago) (2 children)

Maybe hundreds of years from now we can synthesize nutrients without involving any living cells. At that point, it could be seen as unethical to enslave, murder and eat billions of microbial cells. For the time being, our life still depends on other living things, so better get comfortable with having mixed feelings about survival.

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