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[–] [email protected] 76 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (3 children)

it's interesting to see the summaries become more inaccurate and incendiary as you change the "bias" from left to right.

left wing summary:

  • The 4B movement began in South Korea in 2019, advocating against heterosexual marriage, childbirth, dating, and sexual relationships with men.
  • Supporters aim to boycott a system they believe promotes gender inequity, seeking control over their lives.
  • The movement's potential expansion to the U.S. Is seen as a response to perceived threats to women's rights following an election.

right wing summary:

  • A group of American liberal women launched the "4B Movement" to boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump in the 2020 election.
  • The movement is a protest against perceived threats to women's rights, including concerns about abortion rights and gender equality.
  • The effectiveness of the "4B Movement" in causing political change is currently uncertain, as it primarily aims to make a statement.

notice how the left wing summary properly states that this is a movement that started years ago in korea, and that it's something that women in the US are adopting due to the recent election. meanwhile, the right wing summary falsely claims that the movement was created by "American liberal women". it also claims that the movement was created to "boycott relationships with men who voted for Donald Trump", which is just not true from the other things i've read. everything else seems to indicate that the 4B movement is about boycotting relationships with all men, not just trump supporters. but maybe i'm wrong about that last point.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

See that's wild to me. If women ended relationships with Trump supporters that would be quite a statement.

However it's mostly left leaning women joining 4b. 52% of white women voted for Trump, even more when you include those who stayed home. That means more conservative relationships, marriages, families and fewer leftist ones. It's almost what conservatives want with all that pureblood talk that the non pure bloods stop reproducing.

Whatever at least it's bringing attention to the cause for now so that's worth something.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

The 4B movement could be considered a type of genocide actually, I'm surprised Rs aren't getting upset about that (and I 100% support our right to genocide them back by using our rights to our own bodies)

[–] [email protected] -2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

The fact that neither side even breathes the word Lysistrata explains a lot about how you got there

[–] [email protected] 22 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (2 children)

i can forgive people for not referencing an ancient comedy that would take an entire paragraph of preamble to explain its relevant before making a point about a fictional story from a long time ago.

it's not like it was a history.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago (2 children)

"In a move straight out of lysistrata, an ancient greek comedy where women withold sexual favours to stop a war"

I literally read that shit as part of a three month subject in year nine

[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Which has what cultural connection to the Korean movement?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

It sets a context for people unfamiliar with 4B.

Most people outside of Korea won't be familiar with its internal politics, but anyone with the most basic education will know what Lysistrata is about.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 month ago

i consider myself to have at least a basic level of education, and this was my first time hearing about Lysistrata

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 month ago

Yeah we talking about America though. From experience we spend more time on our own states history than the entirety of Greece and Rome, except in relation to why so much Greco-Roman shit is in our country. I'm pretty sure we didn't cover any Greek comedies.

You don't need to know any of that nonsense to be a good little patriotic non unionized factory worker.