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The Democratic party refused to understand that courting the right doesn't work - and now it's cost them the election
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this post was submitted on 06 Nov 2024
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If you want to refer to fascism only as it relates to Mussolini's regime, then 99% of people using the word in America have no concept of the word. I'm referring to modern day fascism here in America.
Nor do I claim that I know more. I'm giving my perspective and opinion on the matter as people online frequently do, and sometimes they turn out to be accurate. I wouldn't want corporate news as they frequently do to say, "here we have a survivor of Auschwitz, the sole authority of fascism to tell you why Kamala is a fascist. Everything they so must be true and you can't question it." Would you want that?
No, you’re referring to being butthurt because some of your posts got deleted which means fascism.
Which is such a privileged position that I am honestly astounded.
Is Trump a fascist to you, and if so why did you help him get elected? Do you think when you censor other people online and berate them, especially when they want progressive policies and peace, that it somehow helps you?
Please explain exactly how I helped Trump get elected. Specifically what did I do?
Again, I ask...
Do you think when you censor other people online and berate them, especially when they want progressive policies and peace, that it somehow helps you?
You indicate that Trumpism is fascism. The concept of attacking people that help you because they're not blindly loyal is one of the elements of fascism in the link you posted, and one of the reasons Kamala lost. Are you saying you never did that? That you welcomed third parties and showed them that you were willing to push for Kamala to change her positions up until the election?
You tell me. You are the one pointing the finger. Show your evidence. Or was it a lie?
Why is that my job? I was not part of her campaign and I am not a member of her party.
Now, let's see your evidence.
Why are you even bothering to respond at all then? Why claim that I'm butthurt that comments were removed and privileged for saying that Democrats also lean towards fascism?
Because I don't like liars.
And you have now lied about me too. Why did you lie about me?
I see question marks, not statements about you. Do you need a Wikipedia link that explains question marks?
Yes. You did use a question mark here.
That is what is known as one of these: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Loaded_question
Because you are, within that loaded question, accusing me of helping Trump get elected. Which is a lie.
So I guess this would be lie #3.
If you're not American, and played no role in inorganically trying to elevate Democrats by attacking others for pointing out or diminishing Kamala's alignment with the neocons, genocidal support and pro-establishment messaging, then I'm sorry. My intention isn't to lie about anyone and would be no better than what I want to fight against.
So just being American means I got Trump elected? Really? I got Trump elected by being born somewhere I didn't choose to be born?
Are you American? Does that mean you got Trump elected?
I didn't say that just being American means you got Trump elected. I have been very clear what type of actions helped Trump getting elected, and have apologized if I misjudged some characterization of who you are. There is nothing else for me to say here. I wish you the best.