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What left wing candidate are you referring to? I don't see any.
someone who has been let down by the “leftwing” candidates before election ? only time when voters have any leverage.
Wrong. We have leverage in the local party board voting. We have leverage in the local municipal elections. We have leverage in state legislature and governor elections. We have leverage in the primaries.
Once the primaries are over, we have no leverage and we should do all we can to prevent the fascists from winning at all costs.
agree, we can’t let fascism win at any cost. even at the cost of an election that requires unconditional support from its voters for a genocide.
Your logic is: defeat fascism by letting the fascists win?
is there a choice ? you said primaries are over and we got two fascist candidate from both parties who want to murder innocents as long as it benefits them ?
The Democrats aren’t fascists, you nimrod.
Nah, they're just hyper capitalist and encourage working with fascists. Totally different.
Better than outright fascists.
In what way are they better?
This is good:
This doesn't seem to answer my question, it just looks like you're begging for my vote.
Stop assisting in genocide and you'll have it, lol~
Oh you didn’t read it?
Of course not. You posted a wall of text in response to a very simple question and captioned it "This is good."
If you have a point, please do make it. XD
I did. You chose not to read it.
If you're talking about your other post, you'll find I responded to it line-by-line, and then you called me a Lib. XD
What state do you live in?
A solid blue one where my vote will count for nothing.
Ok, fine. Then in that case, why are you arguing so hard with me? You know my fight is not with you.
I enjoy political discussion and will happily argue just for the sake of it.
Also, the faces of liberals and other right-wingers turn all sorts of interesting colors when you explain basic political realities to them, like how the Democrats are fascists on par with the Republicans.
I'd still rather have the less-harmful fascists than the more-harmful fascists.
Well, for one thing, my Mexican, gay and trans friends don’t have to be worried that they’ll be rounded up and deported or worse.
Of course it’s not ideal. But we have to play the hand we’re dealt. And we were dealt a two party system.
And until you’re ready to go up against tanks and fighter jets and bunker busters and knife missiles, I don’t see how you guys can just sit there and complain. Start your revolution already, if you think you can win.
Or just fucking vote, you goddamned babies!
I'm gay and trans and one of my partners is Puerto Rican. Biden intensified Trump's border and deportation policies: https://www.politifact.com/factchecks/2024/mar/08/alejandro-mayorkas/has-biden-deported-more-people-in-nine-months-than/
"Not ideal" would be if they were merely as bad as Republicans. Pretending to be on our side while being worse than the Republicans is a real feat.
If someone tries to force you into choosing between bad and worse, the correct response is not to pick the lesser evil, it is to spit in the face of both your captors.
Calling people names when you're trying to get them on your side doesn't seem very effective..
Okay lib.