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[–] [email protected] 5 points 13 hours ago (1 children)

"A" refund, from "one" redditor who has provided no proof. On a subreddit that's been known to brigade. I'm not saying CIG is a saint, but I feel like a rag piece and the outrage need to hold off for more info.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago (2 children)

On a subreddit that’s been known to brigade.

How do you know this? There is a reason why I am asking.

And would you be willing to change your opinion if a redacted copy of the NDA was published?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 12 hours ago

Seeing is believing and it would sway myself and many more. Until then, it is just another article written based on an unsubstantiated reddit post. And I've seen enough Reddit posts be bullshit to need to see that NDA before believing.

[–] [email protected] -2 points 11 hours ago (1 children)

What's your reason for asking? I'm assuming because you linked a rag piece and not the original reddit thread for context?

I'd need to see at least two different people with the same claim submit redacted copies. One of which should not have any history on the refunds reddit. One motivated person could forge an NDA, and again, I wouldn't put it past that community to hallucinate yet another slight.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 10 hours ago* (last edited 10 hours ago) (1 children)

I am just curious how you know this? The SC reddit sub is huge compared to the refunds sub.

Just seems strange to claim to be so focused on "proof", while seemingly making your own claims without any data. Shouldn't there be a common standard?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 8 hours ago (1 children)

Right, because the refundians are a loose collective, and CIG is a company. You can't point at a singular post and go "there's the brigading," mostly because they get removed by mods, but hate groups brigade. But to cite a source, the Derek Smart "90 day cash flow" claim is a good place to start.

CIG has plenty of things to rightfully criticize, but this isn't one of them until multiple people from multiple sources come forward. It's sensationalist bullshit until proven otherwise.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 7 hours ago (1 children)

Who said anything about CIG the company. I was referring to the size of the SC subreddit vs the refunds subreddit; specifically (420K vs ~25K). How would this brigading even work? What mostly gets removed by mods? Negative threads about SC or alleged brigaded votes? There are tons of critical threads about SC in various subreddits, so they don't get removed.

Don't see what Derek Smart has to do with star citizen as of now. His twitter is focused on crypto and "web 3.0 gaming", why is this relevant.

That being said, you can find a subreddit that was run by star citizen fans about Derek Smart. Seems like it was archived due to constant rule violations.

Do you actually have any evidence or this just something you feel is right?

More info on this issue would definitely be interesting. But to be perfectly honest, I don't believe star citizen fans are interested in any good faith discussion on this topics.

[–] [email protected] -1 points 6 hours ago

Man, moving the goalposts from CIG to the subreddit? Talk about bad faith. Nah, don't have the time and crayons for a refunder. Enjoy your hate-filled existence lol