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[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 day ago (2 children)

According to this, those making 100k (33.6% of Americans) will be getting less money. The 66.4% of Americans will be getting significantly more.

Via zippa

[–] [email protected] 57 points 1 day ago (6 children)

As a programmer and my wife is a doctor, I'm in the upper brackets. But I don't care. Also happy to see the millionaires losing even more money!

In my eyes, $3000 goes a long way for someone struggling!

[–] [email protected] 7 points 15 hours ago

That's because anyone with even a shred of empathy would rather live in a healthy society for relatively cheap.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 15 hours ago

If I didn't have to pay taxes, I could buy a house and stop paying rent. I'm above median.

Neither plan is good.

[–] [email protected] 35 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I am in upper brackets, too - I’m happy to pay more if someone who is struggling doesn’t have to.

[–] [email protected] 31 points 1 day ago* (last edited 1 day ago) (3 children)

Dodging taxes is unpatriotic.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 19 hours ago

So have a look at what amount of taxes the rich in the US (don't) pay, and you know how patriotic they are.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 1 day ago

Based and "unfunded tax cuts are theft" pilled

Sorry for the brain rot

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

I think intentionally avoiding taxes should be a very serious crime. It's stealing from everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 day ago

I guess I am too, maybe it’s my nouveau-ness (not that I’m anywhere near “rich”), but I don’t understand why the attitude isn’t “just go make more money”? (Keeping in mind we’re talking about people who don’t need the money for subsistence and are clearly capable of generating cash)

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 day ago

It's not losing, it's sharing.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 day ago

Same. Oh no I’ll have to cook at home a few more times per year. How will I survive.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 day ago

Yeah, I would pay less under Trump and so would everyone in my area. The brackets that would pay less under Kamala can't afford to live here. Still a very blue area.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago (2 children)

I'm assuming you mean they will be getting a lower portion of the increases? The chart you have here looks more like how many people fall in a given bracket.

It makes plenty of sense to shift things to greater gains on the lower end. A while back there was a study that said somewhere around $75K was the point at which actual income gains start to level off as far as what improvements it makes to your life. At that point you can probably pay your bills and afford to eat without stressing so much over every decision. I forget if that was for a single person or what, but for where I live it would be doable to be sure. Lower than that and you need that extra boost to just meet the basic needs.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 18 hours ago (1 children)

The $75k figure is from 2010. The article seems to be https://www.pnas.org/doi/10.1073/pnas.1011492107.

You acknowledge $75k as a living wage in 2010. How would research from 2010 be used for wage suppression today? Was it wage suppression in 2010?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 17 hours ago* (last edited 17 hours ago) (1 children)

Actually I didn't specify when. The measure of if a wage is livable is going to vary greatly based on where you are of course. Around here one of the larger employers handing out 'just basic work' level jobs starts off at around $40K which is roughly a $10K increase over the last few years according to their persistent hiring sign and it's regarded locally as being decent pay.

Some very rough math would say that if you made $75K and took home say 60% of that after tax and insurance you would make about 3,750 a month. A rent or mortgage in the $1000-1500 space isn't too abnormal here leaving $2K+ for your other needs, utilities, food, etc

It's not a life of luxury level to be sure, but being someone who has gone from "milk to make mac & chz is a luxury" to actually having a few bits extra to buy some nice toys there is a cutoff out there where cash stops being the main stress in life. In my case it was somewhere around the point when I could just go buy a jug of milk without having to check if that was going to leave enough gas money for the rest of the week...

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 hours ago

Perhaps poverty and a living wage are different. I often get caught up in the difference between one million and $75k.

What's fifty grand to a


like me, can you please remind me?

(A lot. That's... a life-changing amount of money for normal people)

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[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 day ago

My guess is with inflation 75K is no longer the ceiling for the amount you make before you level off as far as happiness and comfort go. Still, billionaires don't really need to exist either way. 🤷🏼‍♀️