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Why would you organise this on company headquarters without the consent of the company?
If you tell your employers that you hate the way they operate, what do you think is going to happen?
This is a Neoliberal anthem: rights are for citizens; employees need to sit down and STFU.
Why do we reject tyranny.gov, but embrace tyranny.com?
I don't think this is any of that though. Company property isn't public property. The company can refuse service to people and require people to have permits for assembly. Employees don't need to sit down and stfu, but there are ways to properly organize and do all the things they want without getting fired
You can go on a protest whenever you want. Don't expect your employers to be enthusiastic about it if you organise one in your workplace, however.
Worldist and genocide apology, name a more iconic duo
If Israel wanted to commit a genocide in Palestine, they could literally carpet bomb the entire place in a day and be done with it.
While they could power-wise, they won't because that'd be too overt. They have to keep the meat grinder at a steady pace so as not to have countries coming in to stop them. Slow genocide is how they win. If you kill a little at a time countries think they can't act on it or behave like they can't.
This.
It's called a protest. Social movements protest to get a message across.
You think they'd get permission?
Also, this isn't really a protest.. A vigil. Microsoft is a trash corporation. None of this is surprising.
So hold it elsewhere? Why does it have to be at a business? Seems a weird place to have a vigil anyways. Why not somewhere more somber or respectful?
Well, given the kind of company, it's not like you'd obtain a consent if you asked. They're too busy getting that Israeli money.
If you work for a company, you're a representative of that company. If you disagree with the businesses they work with, don't work for that company.
Or if you really have a problem and want to express yourself, don't do it at your workplace. It's stupid.
I'm not. Corporate is paying for my work (and barely, at that, given current rates), not for my ethics or for my ethical standing before other people who might not work at the company. If you believe otherwise, you might have been brainwashed by corporate-paid education.
It's literally how employment works. Unless you're self-employed, you represent the people who pay you.
no I fucking do not you bootlicker
Last I checked we sell our labor power, not our entirety of our existence.
Ppl seem to rly want slavery modes of labor back again. Sad
Lol, what?
You represent your employers at work, not every waking hour.
Gotcha. Microsoft against vigils. Like I said I'm not surprised since it's a garbage company.
It has been shifting to every waking hour for a while now. Your behavior is being monitored to a greater, and greater, extent everyday, and the big companies, that truly own the economy, are becoming more, and more, likely to take punitive actions against you for anything you do, at any time, because "as an employee you are a representative of our company".
Social media has been an awful tool for them to use against us. I've had coworkers that were let go for airing out stuff on Twitter that was pretty minor compared to something like this, usually just trash talking the company for being passed up for promotion.
Never use your real name on them.
Employers in the US often include "morality clauses" that mean they can fire you because they deem you to be harming the reputation of the company due to behavior outside of work.
More importantly than "the rules", though, US employers can fire you for basically any reason they want and then just lie about it. Nobody is going to force them to be truthful. Not even if they are union busting. The Biden-Harris NLRB, which the president dragged his feet staffing and staffed with wet blankets, has even upheld the Trump NLRB Electrolux decision - and the vast majority of people never get to the point of launching a lawsuit that would be relevant, as it costs tens of thousands of dollars.
If you want power in the workplace you need to organize a union competently and develop capacity real leverage (direct action, community support, naming and shaming).
I'm sorry that the facts don't fit your narrative. It must be frustrating.
yea I'm seething you dork
They didn't even hand me a uniform or a qt cap, and they work with Node.js despite several warnings; I ain't representing shit.
Microsoft doesn’t really care about the employees politics. The problem was that the employees were actively trying to lower profits by shrinking the market