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[–] [email protected] 1 points 6 days ago (6 children)

Seeing how this thread is full of hate for Spotify by seeming large number of people who are fans of streaming music/podcast services, I'll pos this question here:

What are the better alternatives for someone seeking to get their favored audios, in terms of library selection, able to form custom playlists and how much if any support to the artist/content creator actually gets to them and what is pocketed by the app?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

I don't think there's all-in-one best option

library size

Deezer

how much is paid to the creator

Bandcamp

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Buy CDs, rip them to FLAC, and self-host something like Plex + Plexamp. Plexamp is a very nice app, but I'm sure there's others.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Go to their concerts, buy the official merchandise and get CD’s or pay the whole albums like on qobuz (they also have streaming, but they sell hi-res flac)

Streaming is not designed to benefit the artist

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (2 children)

There are none.

All of the services steal from artists, so I'd recommend ripping MP3 tracks from Youtube. There are several tools online for this purpose. Yes, the artist gets nothing, but the more important thing is the services stealing from the artists don't get anything either.

Do this and then compensate the artist in other ways. Buy music directly from them if you can, or buy their merch, or something of that ilk.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

I'd recommend ripping MP3 tracks

This is how you end up with a library of very low quality tracks. YouTube's compression isn't great.

Yes, the artist gets nothing, but the more important thing is the services stealing from the artists don't get anything either.

Why do you feel that YouTube is different to those other services? Does YouTube pay more per view than Spotify pays per listen?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

I doubt the artists agree with your take.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago* (last edited 5 days ago) (1 children)

Totally, man.

I'm sure they miss the two bucks a year they get off Spotify more than they like the $25 they get for a t-shirt from me.

The thief is Daniel Ek, and no one knows that better than recording artists.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

If you really do that with every artist you listen to then sure.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

Tidal, or buy albums and self host if you're up for it but I feel like that's not a real option for most.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (2 children)

How big is the percentage artists get for the album really though?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 5 days ago

At a recent (niche) music festival, they said it takes 50,000 streaming songs to pay the artist as much as a single CD sale.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago (1 children)

That is a complex question but my line of thought is this: artists have accepted legal agreements on how to sell/stream their work and how much they get for it. You as a consumer don't need to worry about this. If there is a way to buy/stream the product legally then the artist has approved of getting money that way.

Basically i don't think this should be a point to discourage buying audio and owning it. The alternative is never owning music and tough luck if a song gets pulled because of legal disputes or whatever.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 5 days ago

tough luck if a song gets pulled because of legal disputes or whatever.

This is the thing I hated about Google Play Music. I had some playlists where half of the songs were missing due to various issues between Google and the music labels.