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tension on kernel mailing lists continues to grow as a Linux Foundation board member finally replies with a "summary of the legal advice the kernel is operating under" re: enforcing US sanctions (lore.kernel.org)

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[–] [email protected] 108 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (7 children)

Holy shit that got spicy. I was not expecting a Ukrainian and a Serb to start bickering back and forth while stacking racks over the level of support a country gave to the Nazis in WW2 on a kernel mailing list like they were in the comments here on Lemmy.

I get that tensions are high, and for many people the geopolitical reality is their homes being used as cover on an active front line, but like bro your actual fucking name is attached to these messages. At least I keep my most unhinged shit on a semi-anonymous platform. They need to lock it the fuck up.

Edit - jfc, a few messages later somebody comes in with something along the lines of “Taiwan isn’t a country, it’s part of China. When reunification comes sanctions won’t be appropriate against Chinese entities.” Is Lemmy just a front end for this mailing list and I had no idea this entire time?

[–] [email protected] 45 points 1 month ago (2 children)

I thought you were joking, but yup they actually started quizzing eachother on WW2.

It's not the end of Linux by any means, but that's gonna be hard to work together afterwards

[–] [email protected] 25 points 1 month ago

Jeeeeez that was a lot. I get the sense that the kernel has worked as well as it has because people saw it as separate from geopolitics and so didnt discuss them...now that politics has wedged its way in I feel like it may have opened that door permanently.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 1 month ago

I'm optimistic, since technical arguments can be pretty heated yet they end like this:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ouTXff7lvq4

[–] [email protected] 42 points 1 month ago

At least I keep my most unhinged shit on a semi-anonymous platform.

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[–] [email protected] 5 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

this is great 🍿🍿🍿

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (2 children)

Not even Taiwan claims to be a country though. They claim to be the sole legitimate government of China, hence their actual name, The Republic Of China, and not "republic of taiwan" or some other thing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

While it was true for a long time, I don't think Taiwan expects to get China back anymore. It's more not to start WW3 for the last 30+ years

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Not even Taiwan claims to be a country though. They claim to be the sole legitimate government of China, hence their actual name, The Republic Of China,

Isn't that, by definition, calling yourself a country?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago

Wrong phrasing on my part.

No matter which side you ask, the Republic Of China (ROC) or the People's Republic of China (PRC) Taiwan isn't a country, it is a region of the country of China. Saying that Taiwan is a country satisfies neither the ROC nor the PRC's claims

[–] [email protected] -1 points 1 month ago

That's why what Linus said was stupid when he brought WWII into this conversation...

[–] [email protected] -3 points 1 month ago (1 children)

They are not wrong though Taiwan isn’t a country. They have never declared independence their government has never officially given up their claim of being the rightful ruler of China. I have no idea why none of these have not been done.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

Because China has always held it would start a full-scale invasion if they ever did. So everyone ignores the elephant and keeps the status quo...