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‘They will vote against Harris’: Arab Americans in Michigan desert Democrats over Gaza
(www.theguardian.com)
this post was submitted on 14 Oct 2024
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I'd recommend doing a search on lemmy.ml, lemmygrad, or hexbear on that. The only countries that have been pushing this line, are the countries that bomb muslims, and refuse to visit the region.
Muslim countries themselves, and the rest of the world, all of whom have sent delegations, deny that a genocide is occurring.
I know those communities and I don’t share their view on the situation, and it’s really not because I don’t have any connection to China.
So you trust what the ppl bombing arabs have to say, over the arab countries themselves? Why?
Being from a country that is essentially a dictatorship and where rivaling factions have been competing over who gets to govern and who are the good / bad guys depending on whether they’re backed by Russia or the US I came to realize they’re all full of shit.
Whether it’s the USA, UK, Germany, France, Russia, China, Iran, they’re all led by psychopaths who instrumentalize suffering for their own political gain.
I don’t know where you’re getting that bit about Arabs from because in Xinjiang they’re Uyghurs, not Arabs. And just because China poses a much needed counterweight to Western imperialism I won’t ignore that they’re the same murderous psychopaths just with a different agenda.
To me, any kind of nationalism is a cancer and if you ask me, the concept of nations and borders should be abolished, because I haven’t ever seen a functioning nation that is actually for the people instead of a ruling class.
Its more that you have internalized an pessimistic imperialist talking-point: your own country is run by sociopaths, and they tell you that every other country is too (whether they justify it being the natural order of things, realpolitik, or anything else. You should be even more skeptical when US leaders point at all their enemies and call them psychopaths, considering how many innocent people the US has and continues to murder. Essentially this meme:
In reality there are very few countries that exploit others, most want to work together politically and economically to better the lives of their people. Even the poorer capitalist countries, which are the majority, often have earnest leaders who are trying their best to escape the low-wage trap the imperialist countries have forced on them.
Here's an excellent comment by @davel on this.
I tried giving you the benefit of the doubt but you’re making no sense if you believe that China isn’t an imperialist empire itself. It’s also an ethno-state where Han Chinese are over everyone else and minorities need to assimilate or get rekt. And do I really need to mention that it’s a fucking dictatorship?
They are against the US but that doesn’t make them the good guys. Same ridiculous shit that the West tried to do with people like Navalny, they tried portraying him as hero because he was against Putin when in reality he was another right wing nationalist fuck.
If you really believe one Imperialist is better than the other just because they’re not the US then you’re taking a shortcut, because the logical conclusion has to be to reject the notion of imperialism itself, instead of just Western imperialism.
Is China Imperialist?