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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (8 children)

Takes deep breath

GoldenEye is bad and has always been bad.

Ducks for cover

Look, I get that there is a generation in anglo territories where the N64 sold ok that discovered multiplayer games with this thing, but it's a slideshow with barely functional single stick controls. Quakeworld was a thing over here.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago)

<Delivers audible Oddjob slap 👋>

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Throws proximity mine in general direction.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Also, SNES > N64.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Amazing how the nostalgia goggles can make us think we were having fun with friends or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

If that's what you had then it was really fun.

I will agree that it is complete dogshit now though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

I agree that GoldenEye wasn't a great game (even for the time) but are you really going to compare it to the online PC gaming scene in 1996?? Did quakeworld even have couch co op support? If it did, I sure hope someone had the adapter so you could play it a TV instead of your tiny crt monitors. If it didn't, this comparison holds even less weight

And what's with the "anglo regions" stuff? Was there a store in your area selling PCs for the equivalent of 200USD or something?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I'm partially with you on this. I was so confused by people being in love with Goldeneye as I had been playing FPS games multiplayer for many years at that point, Quakeword and its many mods were light years better. That being said, it was highly novel for console-only gamers and the game itself was fun enough once you got over the horrid controller.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

Yeah, and I think that's nuanced that slowly got eroded. Even at the time I remember the consensus about GoldenEye being "it's a good FPS... for a console". I'm not sure I would rather play it over Alien Trilogy or whatever the competition was in 1996, but that was the argument.

But then the "for a console in 1997" part started getting dropped off after console FPSs stopped being this weird, mismatched exceptional thing and became mainstream and now people don't remember that playing a FPS with a controller was a thing nobody did because it sucked. The N64 took a first stab at making that semi-functional that wouldn't really come together until Halo CE.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago (1 children)

and now people don't remember that playing a FPS with a controller was a thing nobody did because it sucked.

Why past tense? It still sucks.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

See, that's the thing, I'm not even being unfair to console FPSs. I'll play on a controller. Catch me on a good day I'll say it's more fair, since your accuracy isn't dependent on how much you splurged on crazy carbon fiber, 5 gram mice with infinite dpi.

But GoldenEye on a single stick at 15fps still sucked.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 month ago

Ducks for cover

Hey, no fair. You know how hard it is for us to aim down.