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This was the moment I checked out of the prequels. Vader, as a child, built C-3PO? I'm supposed to continue suspending my disbelief, now? Impossible.
https://youtu.be/R4wOzbqgfIY?si=ievCbYECc11e61hU
"The 3PO-series protocol droid, also known as the 3PO-series protocol unit, was a model of protocol droid produced by Cybot Galactica sometime prior to the Invasion of Naboo. They were equipped with a TranLang III communication module, and as a result were fluent in over 6 million forms of communication. C-3PO was an example of this model, though he was rebuilt out of spare parts. TC-series protocol droids appeared similar to 3PO units."
Wookieepedia
There are a ton of 3PO-series droids in the Star Wars universe.
Vader would not look at a 3P0 droid and think "maybe that's the droid I built as a child and left on a plant in the outer rim"
Same with R2-D2
It's just for the movie sake that there aren't 30 CP0s and 50 R2-D2 units running around in the background. "Wait did Biggs just get R2 in his x-wing?" No, it's some completely different droid I've never seen. Some things have to be adapted for the movie.
As for difficulty, no harder than building like a PC. If there are a ton of CP0 units, he simply takes working parts from a dozen broken ones and pieces them together. He's a child, they fib and stretch the truth. He could have just attached new legs to the unit that needed only legs and then went through the setup process of "programing" him.
He didn't Tony Stark C3P0. He pieced together a robot from pre-made CP0 scrap parts.
Anakin was able to build this in a cave! With a box of scraps!
And according to other posts in here, they're sentient, and property. And they let kids build them. He also happened to build the one that would be partially responsible for his downfall years later. Star Wars. The universe that keeps on giving.
Considering they are sentient beings they are basically Skywalker family/property, is it really so far fetched they would accompany Leia? Like, they can't think for themselves and as much as Vader loved the thrill of being right in the center of the action so did r2. 3p0 just wants to be loved.
So, they let kids bring sentient beings into existence. Sentient beings that are property. This opens a whole new can of beans on the Star Wars universe.
Tattooing isn't really known for its strict laws on morality. Anikin, the slave, was allowed to drive a pod racer, which apparently had like a 10% survival rate per race.
Maybe C3PO was a kit. Like a gay robot Lego set for ages 5-12. Those Jawas can sell practically anything.
This is my favorite theory. I mean, I'm not a star wars historian deep in debate, buffet plate at Bennigan's, but I like to think I know my stuff.
Definitely one of my least favorite aspects of them. Everyone must get a backstory, and they must all be interrelated. The galaxy's a small place apparently.
Story takes place in a whole-ass galaxy. Everyone winds up back on Tatooine for some stupid reason; the planet with barely one ecosystem, practically zero vegetation, no economy that matters, yet populated with two (?) cities. Other planets also have exactly one ecosystem, culture, and one optional urban center. There's also only 12 or so planets that matter, yet half of everyone you meet are from all the other ones. You may not like what you see, but this is peak sci-fi writing performance, right here. /s
This story could take place in a diverse corner of a single Earth-like planet and it wouldn't be all that different.
Single-biome planet is a quite common trope in "science fiction" (tvtropes warning)....
It's really funny when you think about it. Nearly all movie planets are actually real places on Earth, from Tatooine (Tunisia) to Endor (Washington IIRC).
Even funnier, a lot of low-budget alien planets (especially the rocky sceneries) are found within a 30 mi radius of Hollywood or whatever the actor guild considers a long distance shoot.
Why was Tattooine featured SO MUCH in a galaxy of planets?
Because Star Wars was based on Dune
Even Frank Herbert would have suggested adding more planets.
I don't think he's supposed to have designed it or anything. I think it's an existing model, and he just scrounged for scrap to put him together. It's basically the thing he's known for as a child. His pod racer seems a little more unbelievable, right?
Not that he couldn't have put together a droid, but that he put this very specific, very integral-to-later-events one together himself. It's ludicrously coincidental.
Makes more sense when you realise there's only like 30ish people in the entire star wars universe
Hence why star wars is a chosen one, hero's quest, prophetised fantasy. Not a Sci fi.
When you and your kin are all prophetised to do important shit, there is no coincidence. it's all part of a bigger divine plan of fate. Or it's the midi-chlorians or something I dunno, I slept through the prequels.
it’s very synchronous rather than causal. i don’t think the rhetoric and messaging of the original star wars was for you. if you’re familiar with the concepts and ideas that went into star wars in the first place then, at least imo, it’s a very natural plot turn that threepio was himself built by vader. yes, the story revolves around anakin in this grandiose and cosmic way. that’s a feature, not a bug.
That's what you're supposed to do, though. They're fun space cowboy movies. Anybody who gets upset about the prequels being cheesy or having plot holes is just remembering the originals through rose-colored lenses.
Revolutionary for the time, sure, but the fact that some of it didn't work in spite of the level of ambition is (for me, at least) part of the charm.
Hold on hold on. You trying to argue that the prequels are the same quality as the originals, that’s just batshit crazy. The revisionism these last years about the prequels because all the kids who were born right around then and grew up watching them is wild. They are not good movies. Sure there’s stuff to like and anyone can find enjoyment in nostalgia, but to say the originals are just as bad and it’s only rose colored glasses is just wrong.
IDK, I kind of agree with them. As a 90s kid, the originals didn't really impress 12-year-old me. The acting was amateurish and cheesy, the "special effects" were cheesy, the story was extremely cliche by that point, the writing was 18-month aged Parmesan cheesy. To 12-year-old-me, the prequels had slightly better acting, better special effects, a much more compelling and interesting story, and the writing was still pretty cheesy. Maybe the dark, brooding main character really did it for my 12-year-old emo self, I dunno. But yeah, I don't think it's that crazy to prefer the prequels to the original trilogy. Like, looking back, neither trilogies really hold up, but the originals are very much propped up pretty much just because they were "revolutionary" nearly fifty years ago.
As another 90s kid that watched the prequels in theatres as they came out: I enjoyed the originals, even though I was only about half your age at the time. Probably worth noting that my mum made sure that I watched the original trilogy before Phantom Menace. And I'm sorry but the acting in the PT is supposed to be better than in the OT? What? No. Nothing against the actors because a lot of it was due to writing (especially for Anakin and Padmé's shared scenes, especially especially in II where Anakin is such a fucking creep) and direction, but no.
Revenge of the Sith was the only one I found worth watching.
I liked the last two but that was the best of the bunch.
I remember being so bored watching Ep 2 that I started to notice that every time a scene changes, Padmé has a different outfit on her. The most suspenseful part was when a scene ended with her tied to a pole in an arena. Surely she won't be able to change now, right? Well, turns out that right as the action switched back to her, she got slashed across her back by a monster and took the opportunity to tear up her long white dress into a different set of clothes.
I haven’t seen them in nearly 20 years. It’s embarrassing how Star Wars obsessed I was as a teenager. Like, holy shit embarrassing. I “photoshopped” images of myself with light sabers and everything.
Fuck it. I’ll show you guys. Man. I shouldn’t.
I thought the one was gone forever, but my sister wasn’t going to let that happen. She said when I posted it to MySpace she knew I’d be embarrassed one day and delete it so she printed it off. Haha. What a dick.
Damn. Here goes.
Beautiful
Looool.
You're right that the OT are just fun movies that are much less impressive than when they came out.
The prequels are hot steaming piles of shit in comparison though. Maybe you need to remove your rose tinted glasses?
Drag likes movies that explore how an opportunistic politician can subvert democracy to create a fascist dictatorship with thunderous applause from the people who are about to be oppressed.
Pointing out that the prequels have the slightest hint of an interesting story does not change that they are garbage movies. All you've done is summarize the plot in vague terms that are only slightly more vague than the movies themselves. They do not "explore how an opportunistic politician can subvert democracy to create a fascist dictatorship", they barely even dip their toes in the attempt.
The prequels do not do an adequate job of establishing why the republic is vulnerable to being hijacked by a fascist dictator. They do not adequately establish how Palpatine is able to seize power. Germany was reeling from WW2 and was thus vulnerable to a charismatic dictator like Hitler. Hitler successfully used the hate and anger of german citiziens, caused by the very real suffering they were experiencing post WW1.
What the fuck happened in the prequels? There was a trade dispute, whatever that means, (it's never explained in the slightest), and so Palpatine gets appointed supreme leader or something? No suffering of average people is asserted, no populist rhetoric that gains momentum because of real suffering. Just, there's a war so we need a supreme leader and it has to be Palpatine.
The plot is completely nonsensical and I challenge you to outline Palpatines rise to power in detail. Every single character acts like a complete idiot and does nothing as Palpatine blatantly seizes power.
Not to mention the dog shit dialogue, stiff delivery, boring characters, racist caricatures, and blatant and obnoxious pandering to children.
The prequels are absolute awful movies in basically every way imaginable. Pretending they are some sort of intellectual piece of work just exposes you as an idiot or someone who hasn't watched the movies since they were 8 years old.
Sorry to be a dick but those movies are seriously fucking bad and I have issues.
Mine was Padme dressing in BDSM gear around the incel monk with an obvious crush on her, and then saying he made her uncomfortable when he started creeping on her
Generally I think women should be able to wear what makes them feel pretty/empowered/safe without getting creeped on, but goddamn, read the room chica!
Also, "I hate sand". Kenobi H Christ, it's awkward
We can't be together, I'm a senator!
The whole Anakin-Padme romance was just awful. Weird Al's line in The Saga Begins:
sums up the absurdity quite well.
Its a five year gap. When their young, its no good. But once they're both in their 20s, who cares?
It is weird/creepy that they included it so blatently in the first movie with the kids. A real 9 year old would have showed her his toy dino collection and a real teenager would have to play along while despretly looking for an escape route.
Not when, in a universe known to contain non-organic beings able to perform tasks like smuggling plans, a gunnery officer decided to save lasers (as though they were apparently a precious resource) and not fire on an escape pod with no life signs? I feel like that would be the most appropriate moment to stop taking Star Wars seriously.
You need to treat the empire like a corporation. They do tons of dumb shit lol
It's okay to accept it's got a bunch of plot holes and enjoy it for what it is: grungy WWII fighter pilots/samurai/wizards/Vietnam war allegory in space.
Right? And Luke leaving behind a prosperous moisture farming career to go fight baddies? Um, no thank you. Know your audience, Lucas.
I see you fellow dadder
Suspend it and buy the merch!