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They line up in front of a courthouse in southeastern France, from morning to evening, and have gathered in the thousands in cities across the country. They hold signs reading, "one rape every six minutes," "not all men but always a man," and "giving in is not consenting."

They chant: "Rapist we see you, victim we believe you."

Women across France are rallying in support of Gisèle Pelicot, a 72-year-old reluctant icon whose husband is on trial in the city of Avignon for systematically drugging her and inviting dozens of men, 50 of whom are now his co-defendants, into their home to rape her over nearly a decade.

The shocking case has sparked what many women in France call a long-overdue reckoning over "rape culture" and systemic sexism in the way the judicial system handles sexual violence.

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[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

Right it's not the usual, it's just excusing the women who raped me (well, so is the law in my area, which is also an issue) because "it's always men." Forgive me if I don't care to make the distinction lmao, the sign is wrong and you are wrong.

Wrong x2 because I'm not engaging with the "oh we're raped more no we're raped more.." because the goddamn statistics are skewed by the virtue if the legal definition excluding woman abusers from the charge of rape by default, I'm engaging with the "and that's why you don't matter" portion. I don't fucking care who is raped more, speak about all of it instead of hand waving away male victims of female abusers.

It's bonkos to me how you are sitting here being all smug feeling good about attempting to silence rape victims. How can you not see you're part of the problem?

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I don't remember silencing you mate. as I said, it's embellishment and pointing to a societal problem. same with the bear question. you're not supposed to take it literally.

maybe go counter protest with a sign that says "make your signs more precise and less attention grabbing" I don't know. then we could be talking about that issue as well, because it is an issue. "men can't be raped" is the result of our patriarchal society, and part of the problem with toxic masculinity. we should indeed talk about that too. systemic sexism hurts everyone.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

Don't make me tap "the sign." Y'know, the one you keep defending? The "always men" one? Idgaf if it's supposed to be literal or not, fuck that sign either way.

If it's an issue why attempt to silence me on the issue? If you agree it's an issue why are you not calling it out when you see it? Would you agree racism is an issue? Do you also police when victims of racism can speak or only victims of rape?

Sure it does, so stop trying to get me to stop speaking against an example of it right now. If you don't have anything good to ad don't add anything at all.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you keep saying "silence me" while you're clearly very much the opposite of silent. no one's silencing you. go protest.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're attempting to and I'm refusing, in protest. Go bother someone who cares about your opinion or something.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

you're giving yourself too much credit. I didn't know you exist; you're the one who replied to me. you have a weird way of showing you don't care about my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

You're trying so hard lmao. Just give up, your attempts to insult and bully me quite clearly don't keep me from speaking. You've devolved from telling me why I should shut up to "Nuh uh, you do too care!" My guy, it's sad. Quit while you're behind, for your own sake.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

I understand you have traumas but you are looking for victimization. no one's silencing you. I'm actively engaging in conversation that you put yourself into, and you're literally crying bully and claiming there's a whole effort to silence you or whatever. there isn't. also you're the one who said you don't care after what feels like 900 replies. I just said that's funny. no one told you to shut up.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

"Actively engaging"

"I fart in your general direction."

Yeah you're a paragon of open communication lmao.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (1 children)

That was obviously a response to your ridiculous insult, "absolute muppet", to which I replied with a similarly stupid insult and asking if this is what we're doing now. The gif is a reference to a famous monty python scene where they use ridiculous insults; it's pointing out what you're doing, not directing the insult to you. I guess you can only dish it out?

The fact that you disregarded all that context shows you're either disingenuous or have no reading comprehension.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago (1 children)

I'mma keep it a buck I haven't been paying attention to what you're saying for a while now, I'm just fucking with you until you realize it and stop because you're annoying to me (well and that whole "women can't get charged with rape legally in many places but that's 'fixed' even though it absolutely isn't" thing.) Last I was paying attention you blamed it on the patriarchy, which means I'm fighting the patriarchy and you're upholding it by defending the sign, isn't that interesting.

Listen I had the day off yesterday so I had the time to fuck with you but unfortunately I have to work, I've spent my time shitting writing this last message to you in the hopes that you FINALLY understand that my anger at the patriarchal sign is well placed, but if not I really couldn't care less. I'm done with you.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago)

I haven’t been paying attention

I know, the only other explanation for your nonsensical replies would be that you didn't understand basic English. The rest of your comment solidifies that you haven't understood anything. Just keep airing grievances my man. Thank you so much for not fucking with me; that would have been a nightmare. I can't imagine what horrors would await me. Your sincere engagement was all I needed from this life. Now I can be happy. Good luck on your journey to bring down patriarchy, and crying bully when you have no idea what other people are even saying. ♥