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The whole argument for legalizing weed was that it would cripple the cartels.
That doesn't seem like it's worked so much.
So again, we have to legalize cocaine before the cartels are weakened?
Then we have to legalize heroin? Fentanyl? Anything else?
I'm in favor of legalizing weed, but this seems a lot like it's actually not helping.
The whole argument, or the part of the argument that you are able to argue against? In my opinion the "whole argument" is that getting caught with relatively harmless plant matter shouldn't ruin your entire life.
Happy Cakeday! 🍰🎂
I don't know anyone who was touting the cartels as a reason to legalize weed... weed is usually being legalized because 1) it's (relatively) harmless, 2) it has medicinal uses, 3) it was outlawed for racist reasons, and 4) it was causing mass incarceration and devastating black communities due to clearly racist enforcement.
Lol no it wasn't.
Oh definitely. All drugs, actually, I'd say.
Here's a question for you. Is the reason you don't shoot up opiate that they're illegal? If you could legally get them, you'd shoot up? (And please, don't answer with "well I wouldn't, but like others...")
Have you read any science about legalising, decriminalising, etc?
Because it all shows it's worth it.
Honestly, I'd absolutely do coke if it were legal, and it would almost surely fuck me up.
I might not do opiates, but honestly, if I had back pain or surgery and they gave me opiates, I probably would take it up after.
Because that's how a LOT of people take up drugs.
Drugs aren't good, you just like them, they're nasty because they break assumptions evolution made, and we're not quite ready for that yet.
If nukes were legal, do you think everyone could be trusted with them? Because most people have self-control, but not all, and before you say "Drugs don't hurt other people!", yes, they absolutely do, you just don't give a shit about them.
It’s harsh, but El Salvador did what was necessary to fix their problem. They saved countless men, women, and children both inside and outside their country from monsters walking in human skin.
What???
They jailed 1% of the population and devastated an entire generation at the very least, often for nothing more than being in the wrong place at the wrong time
https://apnews.com/article/el-salvador-bukele-central-america-crime-gangs-60c3a34c571dfdbdf0a203deb85abf71
And yet vast majority of their population had him at over 90% approval and thought everything he did was necessary to maintain order.
There’s already far more trauma, and even more to be inflicted if he didn’t go all out against gangs. If you aren’t from that area or other similarly dangerous country you wouldn’t really get how desperate it gets. He 100% was necessary.
They’re no longer the murder capital of the world and safer than even Canada. Women can actually walk outside and children can play.
First I’ve heard of this, and I’d consider myself a pretty big follower of drugs and drug culture. Who thought weed was lucrative for cartels? The plant you can easily grow, and is challenging to transport?
Calling it the “whole argument” is very disingenuous. People have the right to get high.
Yeah, all of it. You can legally buy chemical analogs of just about any class of drugs because the laws simply can’t keep up. Prohibition isn’t working, and it hasn’t ever. What you’re seeing today is a result of prohibition (and prescription painkillers in the 00s, I’d argue).
The problem won’t be fixed by making things illegal. What, are you going to make opiates more illegal or something? Education and learning how to have a proper relationship with mind altering substances is the way forward, IMO.
Shoutout to erowid.org.
Hey hey hey.
You're a smart feller. I only wish I knew people like you in real life. I've held these opinions for more than ten years, and during that time, a whole fucking bunch of my "friends" have stripped being in contact after I've talked to them about my views about prohibition.
Which is ironic, because their actions (or inaction, rather) and aversion to talking about the prohibition is what is actually holding up the prohibition, which is what enables most of drug abuse. So they thought I was defending drug abuse, while it's their position which literally supports it's existence.
I came up with a slogan some 15 years ago.
"Legalise, educate, tax and regulate."
Respect