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[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago (1 children)

I don't live in the US either.

I think the actual value on my bill is 2300kwh. But we can use 2700.

I can't find any source for $0.2/kWh. I used https://www.energy.gov/eere/analysis/2022-grid-energy-storage-technology-cost-and-performance-assessment and eyeballed the cheapest gravitational storage. PSH is still above $50. Well let's assume $0.2 per kWh per year and that half of it can be stored it's $270 per year in storage fee

My actual price for electricity is much lower than €600 per year, most of it is taxes and fees that does not get benefit from storage. Looking up the invoice from March i paid $0.07 per kWh, September was $0.01. Half of 2700 would be $95 using March price for the entire year.

We are spending billions, we must spend billions, but we have to spend them where it makes sense. Spending 270 to save 95 is insanity.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 month ago* (last edited 1 month ago) (1 children)

Wow your electricity prices are insanely cheap to me! I knew it was a bit more expensive here, but not by over 3x or even 30x based on your September estimate! We also have standing charges that amount to something like £250 a year even if you use no electricity whatsoever. My electricity & gas bill is over double yours for two people in a 2 bed house and we basically never use the heating. I think the economy of it makes sense with my situation but it definitely doesn't for you

If you don't mind me asking, where is it you live? Does your country have a lot of oil reserves or something?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 month ago

North Scandinavia.

Most of the electricity here is hydroelectric that has been built many years ago so the power plants are paid off.

The price during summer is very low. In the winter especially the cold months is much higher with Dec-Feb being the peak.

The determining factor is still the capex for storing it. At $50 it makes no sense. At $0.2 it makes sense in some places. I don't know which assumption is correct, I expect to be wrong in 50% of the cases when I argue on the internet.