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I saw a post recently about someone setting up parental controls -- screentime, blocked sites, etc. -- and it made me wonder.

In my childhood, my free time was very flexible. Within this low-pressure flexibility I was naturally curious, in all directions -- that meant both watching brainteaser videos, and watching Gmod brainrot. I had little exposure to video games other than Minecraft which ran poorly on my machine, so I tended to surf Flash games and YouTube.

Strikingly, while watching a brainteaser video, tiny me had a thought:

I'm glad my dad doesn't make me watch educational videos like the other kids in school have to.

For some reason, I wanted to remember that to "remember what my thought process was as a child" so that memory has stuck with me.

Onto the meat: if I had had a capped screentime, like a timer I could see, and knew that I was being watched in some way, I'd feel pressure. For example,

10 minutes left. Oh no. I didn't have fun yet. I didn't have fun yet!!

Oh no, I'm gonna get in so much trouble for watching another YTP...

and maybe that pressure wouldn't have made me into an independent, curious kid, to the person I am now. Maybe it would've made me fearful or suspicious instead. I was suspicious once, when one of my parents said "I can see what you browse from the other room" -- so I ran the scientific method to verify if they were. (I wrote "HI MOM" on Paint, and tested if her expression changed.)

So what about now? Were we too free, and now it's our job to tighten the next generation? I said "butthead" often. I loved asdfmovie, but my parents probably wouldn't have. I watched SpingeBill YTPs (at least it's not corporatized YouTube Kids).

Or differently: do we watch our kids without them knowing? Write a keylogger? Or just take router logs? Do we prosecute them like some sort of panopticon, for their own good?

Or do we completely forgo this? Take an Adventure Playground approach?

Of course, I don't expect a one-size-fits-all answer. Where do you stand, and why?

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[โ€“] [email protected] -1 points 2 months ago (2 children)

If I was a parent, I'd be one of those parents where the child has to suffer the consequences. No, I will not come to your defense when you engage with and anger trolls. No, I will not be responsible for any scarring you inflicted on yourself by watching things or seeing things not meant for a young person's mind pre-adulthood.

I'll gladly give them their own computer and I'll give them internet access. I'll gladly give warnings and cautions. But fuck with all of them whether it's illegal activity that's going to come at my doorstep or whine about anything you started - you're fucked.

[โ€“] fool 4 points 2 months ago

Someone downvoted but I want to hear your differing stance so I upvoted. (Come on fellow lemmings ` . ` let's melting-pot a little!)

Anyway -- your belief is interesting, though I feel like I might disagree! Seems similar to @Contramuffin's upbringing, but more extreme.

How would you train them beforehand? Or would you just drop them into the archetypal sink-or-swim? Don't you think the kid would feel lonely, say, if they stumbled on a jumpscare video and got the heebie-jeebies but you didn't help? Everyone makes mistakes. And outside of scarring -- what if your kid turns into one of those YouTube Kids jockeys?

Is your hypothetical "Tough shit, deal with it and get stronger" approach similar to how you were raised?

[โ€“] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago

My mother's policy was that the first time we do something wrong, talk with us, help us learn why it was wrong and how we should have acted. If we do it again even with that knowledge, punish us.

I feel like that would apply here, too, even if you don't see leaving them with the consequences as actively punishing them. But as a kid it's easy to get in over your head before you learn your own limits, and you're not born with the knowledge of how to bail yourself out. I think they deserve a grace period.