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I saw a post recently about someone setting up parental controls -- screentime, blocked sites, etc. -- and it made me wonder.

In my childhood, my free time was very flexible. Within this low-pressure flexibility I was naturally curious, in all directions -- that meant both watching brainteaser videos, and watching Gmod brainrot. I had little exposure to video games other than Minecraft which ran poorly on my machine, so I tended to surf Flash games and YouTube.

Strikingly, while watching a brainteaser video, tiny me had a thought:

I'm glad my dad doesn't make me watch educational videos like the other kids in school have to.

For some reason, I wanted to remember that to "remember what my thought process was as a child" so that memory has stuck with me.

Onto the meat: if I had had a capped screentime, like a timer I could see, and knew that I was being watched in some way, I'd feel pressure. For example,

10 minutes left. Oh no. I didn't have fun yet. I didn't have fun yet!!

Oh no, I'm gonna get in so much trouble for watching another YTP...

and maybe that pressure wouldn't have made me into an independent, curious kid, to the person I am now. Maybe it would've made me fearful or suspicious instead. I was suspicious once, when one of my parents said "I can see what you browse from the other room" -- so I ran the scientific method to verify if they were. (I wrote "HI MOM" on Paint, and tested if her expression changed.)

So what about now? Were we too free, and now it's our job to tighten the next generation? I said "butthead" often. I loved asdfmovie, but my parents probably wouldn't have. I watched SpingeBill YTPs (at least it's not corporatized YouTube Kids).

Or differently: do we watch our kids without them knowing? Write a keylogger? Or just take router logs? Do we prosecute them like some sort of panopticon, for their own good?

Or do we completely forgo this? Take an Adventure Playground approach?

Of course, I don't expect a one-size-fits-all answer. Where do you stand, and why?

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[–] [email protected] 9 points 2 months ago (2 children)

I think we should give parents the tools to raise their children as they see fit and the freedom to be able to make that choice.

[–] fool 6 points 2 months ago (1 children)

That's fair. Subscribing to a singular doctrine doesn't make sense, and there are lots of culture gaps to acknowledge.

What about for you specifically? To what extent would you/do you digitally monitor your kids (if you have any or not)?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 2 months ago (1 children)

Me specifically?

I don't think digital monitoring is needed and I think it'll stop a lot of teachable moments that will help out later in their lives but I do have friends who monitor their child's cell phones to the extent of using GPS to see if they are speeding.

I always want to teach those kids what a faraday cage is.

[–] fool 6 points 2 months ago

Hah! Faraday Cage, nice. Location spoofs too!

Interestingly, the route my mother took was, when I went off to college, she asked me if she could track me. We discussed privacy (who has my location?) and security (Is the protection endeavor proportionate to the threat chance?), and I demonstrated a basic location spoof (I am in control of my data).

In the end, we agreed to allow some monitoring.

That's different of course -- it's a rare (I think) circumstance and consent, and isn't quite parental control, as both parties had equal grounds to form said consent.

I wonder if such a conversation could happen among younger children. 12 to 13 y/os maybe? Depends of course.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 2 months ago

This right here. Every kid is different and parents should know what they need and be allowed the freedom to choose what’s right for them.

We have a 11 and 13 year old and neither are capable of disconnecting. I mean literally. They will skip sleep, meals and restroom breaks if given that level of freedom. So we have time limits. Reasonable ones in my opinion but still limits.

Also, I work in tech and one of the kids is extremely savvy at pushing boundaries and getting around my security , so I make it a game and give them the freedom to break limits in a controlled environment. This builds trust and teaches them at the same time.

Trust but verify and provide what’s best for your own kids.