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Interstellar.
I've watched it so many times, yet I still ugly cry at least twice every time I do.
I first saw it in a completely empty theater as a teen. The visuals are obviously amazing, and I really liked the story, until the last bit - back then I was annoyed that they suddenly jumped from scientific accuracy towards feelings and emotions.
It took me a long time to properly understand the metaphor and message, but now I love it all the more!
That stupid love shit they shoehorned in was sickening. But, Hollywood must always sit in every chair at the table. I'm sure that was the suits insistence and not the writers.
That pulled me out of the movie like a black hole. I loved the visuals, the music and everything. The fact that the guy sat alone in a spaceship for years really messed with me. Then there was the love dimension stuff and i was just like: alright, do i have dishes to wash or something?
What do you mean with "love dimension"? Are you talking about the inside of the black hole? That was explained with the future humans constructing a space that Cooper could understand, navigate, and use to transmit the data necessary for human survival to his daughter. Love is what made his daughter believe in him and attempt to decode the message, but the space itself had nothing to do with love.
Especially because they tried to shoehorn it in as some kind of scientifically unexplained phenomenon. It’s not unexplained; we have a fairly good understanding of both the genetic predisposition to form families and care for them, as well as the chemistry of oxytocin dopamine and serotonin, and although we don’t know exactly how they work, we know that they facilitate emotional bonds. This doesn’t make love any less precious, but it’s not some trans-dimensional thing that can connect us.
If only they would have just used quantum locking instead lol.
I couldn't disagree more!
What is your interpretation of the second half?
Nothing that happened in the movie could have been successful without love, it allowed humanity to do what shouldn't have been possible.
To start off, I believe there was a very narrow path that led to humanities survival - kinda like that Doctor Strange scene in Infinity War. Had things happened differently (Cooper wasn't the pilot, they didn't go to the ice planet, Cooper didn't sacrifice himself) humanity would have been doomed, and all those things happened due to love.
And only love is what allowed Cooper and his daughter to actually bridge time and space, because if she didn't love him so much, she wouldn't have attempted to decode the gravitational messages - she wouldn't have believed this to be possible. But she did believe in him, and she did believe that he would still be out there and trying to save them.
None of the things they attempted would have worked without love, and none of them would have meant anything without love. In the end, the story is all about human connections driving us to attempt the impossible, and that's a lot more powerful than some scientific MacGuffin could ever be.
Yeah, I guess. I can follow you on that walk, but I feel like that kind of a plot left-turn is better suited, or at least, more expected in the realm of anime or something similar. I think it threw a lot of people off given that it went to the wonderful scientific accuracy of recreating accurate physics of a black hole inside of a supercomputer to generate the CGI, and explains relativistic time dilation to normies, and then just Deus ex machinas the whole problem with the "Power of Love" right at the end without even hinting that it was coming.
I see where you're coming from, I used to hold the same perspective. But there were already a couple of "unrealistic" plot elements before that - like the gravitational anomalies in their house, or the conveniently-placed-and-magically-kept-open-and-large-enough wormhole, which doesn't seem much less Deus ex machina than the tesseract at the end.
Maybe the biggest difference in perspective is in the "power of love" - I don't think the plot is using that as a solution, that's just Coopers interpretation. The solution is the tesseract created by the future humans, which isn't that much more unrealistic than the wormhole. It was a unique and visually incredibly interesting interpretation of the supposed singularity at the center of a black hole, and sadly there's probably no way we could ever even form theories on what that might look like.
In the end, I'm not sure there's anything less unrealistic that could finish the plot, and I'm fine with the sci-fi elements. But that doesn't make your view any less valid!
I’m not sure if you’re interested, but I believe they’re rereleasing it this weekend for theaters. At least in the US.
Update: they pushed it to December 6th
My pick too. The docking scene is fantastic, and the slingshot around Gargantua always gets me.
"We agreed Amelia; nighty percent."
I'm convinced that movie is a masterpiece. The score is amazing too!