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What do you think the voting age should be? (lemmy.ml)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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About two years ago now, I was sitting on a bench in Central Park writing my initial thoughts on what I didn't know then but would come to know as Youth Rights.

I don't think I'll ever remember why she did, but about halfway through the day Greta Thunberg came to mind, and I looked up the voting age in Sweden. And my blood boiled in a way I've never experienced in my entire life.

16 years old and one of the most famous and recognizable political activists in the world. 16 years old giving a confident, impassioned, admonishing speech to the fucking UN. 16 years old with no legal right to a voice in her country. No voice to vote for the policies she believed in or the people who might enact them.

My writing, already vitriolic to a fault, managed to become even moreso but with the topic abruptly switched to voting. For the first time in my life, I considered where I'd place the voting age if I could do so unilaterally. Not long into considering it I had a thought that I wrote down immediately, a question I've asked well over 100 times at this point with no substantial answer:

When is it reasonable to say to a person, 'If you're not at least this old, then I don't give a fuck what you think'?

And from the moment I had that thought, I have been unable to place the voting age.

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[–] [email protected] 16 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think it should be 16 or so. If you can wreck my car, you should be able to vote.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago

I think it should be whatever the age is to be able to work a job.

You pay taxes at 14 years old because your asshole of a governor got paid by the meat packing industry? You get to vote.

[+] [email protected] -10 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I would never let 16 year old me vote.

25 is a solid voting age informed by life experience in the "real world" and a developed brain. Nobody in their late teens to mid 20s can vote with a grasp of reality and understanding of the actual problems that plague society. There is too much optimism and idealistic intentions at those ages. Progress is a slow march against an established defense. Progress, no matter the speed, gains more than attempting brute force attacks against a greater dying populous fervent in their position in opposition.

With a declining birth rate, slow and steady wins the race; or maybe Idiocracy was a documentary and WALL-E is a hopeful outcome of Surrogates.

[–] Michal 6 points 3 months ago (1 children)

There are a lot of adults who shouldn't be allowed to vote, but in democracy you let everyone have equal say and don't make arbitrary rules to exclude certain groups.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

That is the beautiful and tragic flaw of democracy and I wouldn't have it any other way.