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I'm out of the loop here.
Hezbollah uses pagers for communication. Israel intercepted shipments of pagers and rigged them with bombs. Then, an unspecified amount of time later, Israel detonated them during the day, yanno, when people would be out and about in public places. Thousands of bombs went off across Lebanon and killed and injured children, elderly people, and adults.
Of course, mainstream media is trying to pretend that Israel didn't potentially commit what should be considered a warcrime while assholes on social media are spinning this as a masterfully precise and accurate strike that didn't have a considerable amount of collateral (I've literally seen someone say "only people with something to hide would be around a pager in this day and age" verbatim), and that anyone injured or killed was a member of Hezbollah.
Like, what if one of those had been on a plane when it went off?
When ISIS plants bombs on people and detonates them in public places then it's a bad thing. Israel does it and everyone stands, claps and tips everyone with $100% bills.
Edit: I honestly wonder if it's only a matter of time before some IDF or Mossad shithead hijacks a plane and flies it into the Burj Khalifa.
Not a war crime; terrorism. Hezbollah is a political organization.
Once again, it needs to be noted that this entire operation was designed to assassinate one guy. The part of the pager shipment was an order made by the Iranian consulate in Lebanon.
Since the Israelis didn't know which pager was going to the ambassador, they just rigged them all to explode. Then everyone who got caught in the crossfire was labeled "Hezbollah" after the fact.
...That does not, in fact, make it any better.
That makes it even more terrorism.
Last week I murdered an entire family of people across the street and started living in their house. One of their relatives came over and was all angry so I had to kill him and his entire family (human shields) because I needed to feel safe in my own home.
This is very complicated and you're stupid if you don't recognize that I've lived here since before I was born.
Bombing a police station because there's a chance one of the cops might try to arrest me.
Bombing the court house so there's no place for my trial.
Bombing the mayor's Special Committee On Investigating City Bombings to cover my trail.
Bombing the local field office of the newspaper that's writing a report on all these bombings.
More people are saying I'm the bad guy, but this is just adding the number of people I have to add to my list of future bomb targets.
And to be 1000% clear: Israel deserved October 7; they deserve a thousand of them.
Yes it does. Just like every white person ever killed in a slave revolt. Just like every nazi killed in the Warsaw uprising.
And I count you among them.
Good luck with that, reporter: Palestinian right of armed resistance
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I and this baby I murdered with my bare hands are exactly moral equivalents to each other. I broke into this child's house and murdered their entire family. That doesn't justify them feebly striking me with their soft baby fists. Nor does that attack on me justify how I murdered this helpless child with an ice pick. There are no good guys here.
If you're not condemning the helpless baby I murdered in terms as strong (or honestly more strong they are brown after all) terms as you condemn me, you're exactly as evil as "the innocent" brown child I just watched choke on blood because I punctured their little baby lungs.
People always act like I'm the bad guy just because I murdered an entire family and stole their home, and just because I'm infinitely bigger and stronger than the little baby, and because the little baby can only put up a token resistance to me killing them and everyone related to them. Just because they're the 'underdog'?? They lost fair and square! It's just so complicated! The baby kicked me in the crib with it's little baby feet while I was getting ready to stab it with my ice pick and make it bleed to death! It's a cycle of violence, not a genocide! I'm not a nazi! It's complicated!
they could've easily just targeted specific individuals (heads of staff, an ambassador apparently) instead of everyone with the pager. it would've been much more responsible to know who and where
They did target a specific individual - the Iranian ambassador in Lebanon. Everyone else was collateral damage.
Do it at night when people are going to bed. Send out a message to get people to check their pagers, then detonate them. There's still a chance of collateral, but it'd be significantly lower than detonating them when people will be out in public at the cost of what I imagine would be a slightly lower chance of hitting targets.
The west makes electronics which explode using security backdoors.
https://www.reuters.com/world/middle-east/israel-planted-explosives-hezbollahs-taiwan-made-pagers-say-sources-2024-09-18/
Secret backdoors... And planted plastic explosives.
Technological appliances which detonate using a classified method of activation.
That's not how batteries work (at least not with the results seen in this case).
Explosive electronic communication devices were allegedly produced in Hungaria.
[citation needed]
https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/taiwan-firm-denies-making-pagers-used-lebanon-explosions-rcna171594