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[–] [email protected] 24 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Tankies are totalitarian right winners cosplaying as left wingers. Communism hasn't been in power in Russia since Gorbachev. It's been nationalists since then. They swung. They swung hard. They kept the totalitarianism and got rid of the leftness. I'd have made largely the opposite choice.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 2 months ago (2 children)

And as many argue, USSR was state capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Lenin was actually capitalist libertarian, they won’t tell you that in the history books written by rotten western imperialists but it’s true. You should read The Communist Manifesto.

Moderators please we have a liberal in the comments, I can’t breatheee

[–] [email protected] 2 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (1 children)

Been working my way through Richard Wolfe stuff first, then I'll work on the classics. If Wolfe says USSR was state capitalism, then he's a liberal too.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 2 months ago

I'm totally ignorant here, but uh... Isn't the point of communism to I close state capitalism?

Communism is not Marxism, which afaik really has never been implemented.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 2 months ago

lenin was pretty good in terms of communism, stalinist russia was very totalitarian though.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago (1 children)

I think you are wrong about the right/left thing. Ever hear about the horseshoe theory of politics?

[–] [email protected] 8 points 2 months ago

Russia embraced capitalism after the fall of the USSR then became an oligarchy where a bunch of super rich run the whole thing. Socialism is dead in Russia and has been for a long time. The only thing that didn't change is that most people are cripplingly poor. Where have you been for the last 40 years?