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The Geneva convention was established to minimise atrocities in conflicts. Israeli settlements in Gaza are illegal and violate the Geneva convention. Legality of Israeli settlements Article 51 of the Geneva convention prohibits indiscriminate attacks on civilian population yet Israel attacked hospitals with children inside. Whether you agree or not that Hamas were present, children cannot be viewed as combatants.so when no care was taken to protect them, does this not constitute a violation? According to save the children, 1 in 50 children in Gaza had been killed or injured. This is a very high proportion and does not show care being taken to prevent such casualties and therefore constitutes a violation.

So my question is simply, do supporters of Israel no longer support our believe in the Geneva convention, did you never, or how do you reconcile Israeli breaches of the Geneva convention? For balance I should add "do you not believe such violations are occurring and if so how did you come to this position?"

Answers other than only "they have the right to go after Hamas " please. The issue is how they are going after Hamas, not whether they should or not.

EDIT: Title changed to remove ambiguity about supporting Israel vs supporting their actions

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[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 week ago* (last edited 1 week ago) (12 children)

This is a loaded question. It pretends every supporter of Israel also supports the current government, the illegal occupation, the ongoing war, and throwing the Geneva convention out.

I support Israel's right to exist as a sovereign state and a homeland for the Jewish people.

But I support none of the above.

And no, I don't have a good solution for this age-old conflict either.

[–] [email protected] 14 points 1 week ago (2 children)

The Jewish homeland was formed by killing and kicking out people who were living there.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 1 week ago

I think this comment wasn't supposed to be an argument for the existence of Israel, but rather directed at the initial premise. They are challenging the assumption that support for the Israeli state and support for the conflict in Gaza are one in the same.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)

As were most countries.
And the Jewish people were killed and kicked out everywhere they lived for centuries prior to that.

[–] [email protected] 13 points 1 week ago (2 children)

That not Palestinians fault.

Why not give Jews half of Germany?

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago

As a German, I'd be fine with that. They can have the Eastern half.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 week ago (1 children)
[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 week ago

I read the book because my wife is from Sitka. Apparently there is a disproportionately large Jewish population in real life as well, though not nearly like in the book.

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