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I fail to see any hate. I think there’s just a big push from the left framing conservative views as hateful.
There’s hate on both sides. Both sides only focus on the hate for the opposing side
Do you apply that standard to all of medical science or just gender affirming care? Is breast augmentation also 'hate, packaged up and gift-wrapped with false love on the outside'? How about palatoplasty, is that also 'hate'?
What constitutes mutilation?
Does it include only aesthetic changes, like tattoos and piercings, or is it stricter?
Any surgical change whatsoever? Are cleft lip surgeries a denial of how you were born?
If your argument is then “no, of course not, even if there is predominantly an aesthetic change, modern health care is broadly in favor of this as a necessary correction”, then how do you account for this being the same stance applied to gender affirming care?
Is it because you don’t wish to see trans people as the gender they present? Why is that? Do you have an argument that is not based in a religion or culture that does not apply to all?
Wouldn't this be a disqualifier for nearly every possible argument about any possible social topic, given that there is no universally accepted uniculture?
That's probably because you're a moron. You have no grasp on actual reality, and so you fabricate one that allows you to feel free to hate people who are different from you. You are, in essence, a piece of shit.
Who is trying to frame lower taxes and small government as hateful?
Or did you not mean those views?
The left?
I'll just let you know you missed the joke. No one is trying to frame lower taxes and small government as hateful - they might despise them as policy, but it isn't anything to do with the hateful reputation of conservatives.
The views that are getting conservatives labeled hateful generally have more to do with the racism, the sexism, the homophobia, the transphobia, the disregard for human life, the disregard for other peoples economic standing, the warmongering, or the weird way they keep voting against letting kids at school have free lunch.
What conservative opinions are you presenting that are distinct from discrimination or willful ignorance of modern science?
Hey uh give a quick browse to his profile and maybe turn around. This is not a discussion you want to take.
I appreciate the warning, but I’m hoping that if this user isn’t convinced that others will see them have a chance to discuss and defend their views and come to their own conclusions.
Oh hey hi OP!! Never thought you'd reply to me. I would honestly rather have face to face discussions about this, preferably over coffee. My usage of the internet extends only to connecting with other people concerning entertainment. Anonymity tends to color people's attitudes so I don't do online slap fights. Don't take it personally.
Unfortunately, it seems you're on the other side of the world and we won't be able to have that opportunity. Also, you will die of heatstroke if you come here. Seriously, don't, unless you have a death wish. Have a nice caturday!
It's because Nazis are supposed to be the bad guys, you fuckwitted twatwaffle.
Yes, conservative and nazi are synonyms to you.
Correct. Well, conservatives aren't exactly Nazis. They're more like nazi fanboys. Still horrible bigots, but pathetic wannabe versions of the real thing.