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I used sink plungers in toilets pretty much my whole life until i scrolled across a similar diagram one day and discovered the truth.

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[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Nope, same and never heard others talking about it in real life. I'm guessing there is some design issues in the American toilets that is not a problem in Europe. Or it's the large portions of low quality food?

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (3 children)

American plumbing is shit (pun intended) compared to Europe's. Source: I lived in Germany for 10 years and never once needed a plunger, while I've needed them regularly in the US.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 3 months ago (1 children)

The comments do seem to hint at this being a big problem in the US.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

Indeed, it was very noticeable to me when I moved back here and had to actually consider how much toilet paper there was before flushing. German toilets took whatever I put in there!

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Even with the weird "shit shelf" toilets?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Yup, and I had shit shelf toilets pretty much the whole time since it was the 80s and 90s. They probably would have been harder to plunge, so good thing they never needed it!

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (2 children)

I think it has to do with the fact that most European toilets put the reservoir up high either on or in the wall, and gravity helps blast the dook down the drain. I have one of those up high ones with the chain flush in my house (US), and that toilet never clogs.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

Australia- never needed a plunger and unless your house is 70+ years old, the cistern and pan are always close coupled.

That said, for a Toilet the sewer connection is 100mm DWV and we use washdown toilets (as most of the world does) vs. American siphon toilets, which use an absolutely massive amount of water and a tiny little trapway to create a siphon that sucks the waste down - that tiny little trap is what gets clogged.

I think Americans would probably sooner move the Metric system than change to a better pan design.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Maybe, but none of the ones I used were chain flushers.