I don’t know much about voting systems, but I know someone who does. Unfortunately he’s currently banned. Maybe we can wait until his 3-month ban expires and ask him for advice?

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[–] [email protected] 32 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine running Guido out of his own fucking project

[–] [email protected] 21 points 2 months ago (1 children)

It looks like one comment was temporarily hidden, by an automod I'm guessing. That hardly qualifies as "running someone out". He even continues to engage in the discussion a few comments later.

[–] [email protected] -3 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago) (2 children)

He's not being run out of the project... yet. This is not a good direction, though. This comes across as the first link that'll show up in a github gist of "What happened to Python?" in a few years. Hopefully not and it's all just an automod mixup, but after the Tim Peters btfo, I know what I'd put my money on.

[–] lysdexic 7 points 2 months ago* (last edited 2 months ago)

He’s not being run out of the project… yet.

To be honest, to me this all sounds like sociopath behavior to throw politically-inconvenient people under the bus in desperate self-preservation, and hoping this would intimidate anyone falling out of line.

Everyone in that group should present their immediate resignation. Shameful.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 2 months ago (1 children)

The time an automod hid a comment and then it was restored will be the first item in the list? Really?

I know that people like to get in a tizzy anytime anyone talks about codes of conduct in a programming environment, but this is such and absolute nothing to get hung up on.

Regardless of your feelings about the direction community organization is heading, save the energy for something actually impactful rather than just trying to stir up drama.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 2 months ago

Sorry, I should clarify I mean first chronologically, not in importance. As in, "here were the warning signs". Also I'll concede that this won't be first chronologically either, it'll be Guido stepping down as BDFL, and then the Tim Peters thing, then things like this.

To be fair, the comment had been moderated for like 4 days, and was only restored recently after people noticed. Hopefully somebody realized that it wasn't a good look.

[–] lysdexic 12 points 2 months ago (2 children)

Imagine running Guido out of his own fucking project

Imagine running Guido out of Python and still have the gall to argue they are acting on Python's best interests.

What a bunch of self-serving fools.

[–] FizzyOrange 7 points 2 months ago

Well, in fairness imagine if Guido did become a racist sexist arsehole. I don't think he should be immune.

But clearly this situation is not right.

[–] sukhmel 3 points 2 months ago

I may be too far from Python to tell, but it looks kind of incorrect to equate the author and their product. What if Guido decides to stop contributing, will Python end then? Creators of Rust spoken about the fact that Rust went very much not the way they wanted it to, this doesn't make them not creators, nor does it make Rust not Rust