this post was submitted on 24 Aug 2024
83 points (91.9% liked)

Technology

58150 readers
3669 users here now

This is a most excellent place for technology news and articles.


Our Rules


  1. Follow the lemmy.world rules.
  2. Only tech related content.
  3. Be excellent to each another!
  4. Mod approved content bots can post up to 10 articles per day.
  5. Threads asking for personal tech support may be deleted.
  6. Politics threads may be removed.
  7. No memes allowed as posts, OK to post as comments.
  8. Only approved bots from the list below, to ask if your bot can be added please contact us.
  9. Check for duplicates before posting, duplicates may be removed

Approved Bots


founded 1 year ago
MODERATORS
you are viewing a single comment's thread
view the rest of the comments
[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

You could even argue that one’s interactions with technology forming such a large part of one’s life creates a new dimension of class divide based on wealth and technical literacy.

Gave me strange associations with discussions about charity and social security under ancap.

Wide masses voting for more social security are naturally not possible there. Wide masses forcing it via threat of violence are supposed to be countered with automated turrets and barbed wire and drones.

But - in an ancap society those better off are interested in there being more people able to sustain themselves. The benefit is a bit like with having more children, only helping others is cheaper and easier.

And then I've recently read about an ancap project (calling it a commune would be weird) which ended up, eh, pretty much like a commune with everyone helping newbies.

And then I remember my childhood with various online games, the economies of which, again, were pretty ... not even ancap, just Hobbesian. And there basically if a developed\experienced player saw a newbie, they'd immediately ask if something is needed, give buffs, advice, resources, items. Protect those weaker etc. Even in Travian, even not being in the same alliance. Just because.

But this even makes sense power-wise. It's in everyone's interest to create power around themselves.

A lot of our discourses are distorted by efforts to demonize human horizontal voluntary interactions. That is because horizontal interactions don't imply imbalance in dignity and allow to bypass chokepoints and death grounds - like centralized platforms and bent laws.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 weeks ago (1 children)

Almost like it becomes a kind of anarcho-communism instead :)

If you'd like, there is a book from that perspective on voluntary horizontal human interactions, especially when it comes to helping others by Peter Kropotkin - Mutual Aid: A Factor in Evolution. It's one of foundational anarchist texts, in my opinion.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 weeks ago

Mostly ancaps won't argue that a valid ancom commune is valid ancap, but will argue against any valid ancap community being valid ancom, my thought was that in reality a stable ancap community will still likely be valid ancom.

I've tried reading this long ago, will try again (ADHD).