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[–] [email protected] 23 points 1 year ago (5 children)

Haha yeah too right. UK government isn't authoritarian enough for apple to listen to

[–] [email protected] 20 points 1 year ago

No, the UK just doesn't have enough population to bargain with.

[–] [email protected] 16 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I mean, they didn't cave to Russia either. Apple just has principles until there's enough cash on the table. Then they claim to "always abide by local laws" wherever they operate.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Yeah you are right there, just being too smart mouthed I guess

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Nah you were appropriately smart mouthed. The problem was my clumsy post intro.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago) (3 children)

it has more to do with where their factories are located. Hard to negotiate with the people who control the very land and people you utilize to build your hardware

Not saying that justifies it, just think we should be accurate with our outrage

[–] [email protected] 3 points 1 year ago

They could have factories in China and not sell phones there. There are also other places to build factories. They just might have to trim back their 42% profit margin. It's still a willingness to abandon principles for a price, isn't it?

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago (1 children)

I think it's more that they know they don't have any negotiating power in China. China doesn't care if they have iMessage, but the UK and the british people do.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Chinese have wechat

[–] [email protected] 2 points 1 year ago

Yeah I agree that the CCP have more leverage due to the factories, aa well as the larger user base.

Just like to point out apple aren't some altruistic organisation, they are a corporation out to make money, and that the CCP suck.

Also, I profoundly disagree with the legislation this thread was originally about.

[–] [email protected] 11 points 1 year ago (1 children)

Oh, they are authoritarian enough. They just aren't powerful enough.

Want to know what it looks like to go power crazy with no power, then go look at the Tories.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 1 year ago

I respectfully disagree with this statement

[–] [email protected] 7 points 1 year ago

Take it from me, the British state is just too paralysed by corporate capture and broke to offer any pushback against corporations. They can't even afford to run a properly equipped and staffed police state, let alone enforce any legal proclamations they make against Apple.