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Ah yes. "Better." Although the only time I ever hear about the Ruskies' newest "better" tank is when gets blown up by a missile.
While I (American) am not a fan of the F35 - mostly because it costs so goddamn much money that could be better used for shit like infrastructure or healthcare - the Abrams remains a solid, proven platform. It's starting to show its age a little, but it's still MUCH cheaper and more practical to minority iterate than start from scratch. Whatever guy posted that was probably one of these 'Tankies' I keep hearing about.
The US is planning for a new tank roundabout 2030. While right now it notionally is going to be an Abrams derivative, it is almost certainly going to be a completely overhauled new design and not a retrofit of existing tanks like what has been happening to Abrams.
Just something to point out to people who complain about the U.S. gifting stocks of vehicles to Ukraine. The U.S. was planning to get rid of them anyway.
The F-35 is an expensive program, and has undeniably had cost overruns, but from some of the poking around it seems the issues have also been exaggerated or different issues have been conflated, so without doing a deep dive, it is hard to say if the program is worth the bang or not.
I watched a Perun slideshow ages ago which at least touched on production / export of the F-35 and how economies of scale bring down per unit price significantly over time.
Economy of scale almost always does. Part of something to dig into is if a projected lifetime program cost accurately bakes that in. It seems intuitive that people against the program will do everything they can to minimize the effect in order to pump up the projected cost, while supporters will do the opposite and give unrealistically optimistic costs.
I don't know specifically if that has happened with F-35 discussion, but I always suspect such manipulation as a baseline.