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Algerian boxer Imane Khelif shakes hands with her opponent who called her a demon yesterday (files.catbox.moe)

submitted 3 months ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

You clearly are trying to imply something

I'm not trying to imply anything, no. Everything I wanted to express, I already have, in words, in these comments. Nothing to hide.

why not just woman-up and say it?

lol

The people whose job it is to decide already did and she qualified. What more is there to do, unless you think they need to look at it again because they got it wrong?

I'm not saying they got it wrong. This is a very ethically tricky question with a large gray area, considering the large protests and anger sent in both directions.

It's very difficult to be morally/ethically objective in this matter because we don't know exactly all the details of what it means, physiologically, to be trans, or non-binary, or whatever else. And especially when someone who might have a chromosome anomaly enters the picture, the gray zone expands. "Fairness" is extremely tricky now because of how we set up the binary-separate competitions of men and women, now that we finally know that gender can be very fluid.

Yes, you totally have no opinion on it whatsoever which is why you vague-posted a "just asking questions" type comment on here.

You are confusing "observation" and "opinion". I have made an observation, that the boxers facing this person as opponents are themselves reacting to the unusual build and strength of this person, and I am also reacting to and observing the visual difference that I can readily see.

But I have no opinion on whether or not they should be able to compete against women, because I have next to no knowledge whatsoever on trans or non-binary physiology/psychology, or for other such LGBTQ+ people. It wouldn't make sense to try to form an opinion based on nothing at all.

The only opinions that I have on this is that 1) respect comes above all, and that 2) sports should be played on equal terms. 🤷‍♂️ Whether or not (2) is achievable in this case, I have no idea. Maybe, maybe not. We probably will never know. At least not in our lifetime.

"just asking questions" type comment

I'm not asking any questions either, because I'm not really actually interested in boxing, nor in trying to actually figure out whether or not this person should be able to compete. That would be a huge undertaking, requiring lots of resources, if it's even possible at all.

Thank you for joining in the discussion. I hope my stance is clearer now. 🤝