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[–] [email protected] 104 points 3 months ago (4 children)

Why is NASA, a publicly funded science organization, fixing the mistakes of a for profit corporation?

[–] [email protected] 108 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

Because for goddamn reason we socialize the losses and privatize the profits

[–] [email protected] 22 points 3 months ago

Those reasons being monopolies and greed and corruption and capitalism.

[–] [email protected] 46 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Because it'll look bad for NASA if people are stranded in the ISS (plus, I assume they have to foot the bill for any resulting extra resupply missions).

Also, if I'm not mistaken, NASA authorised the launch, while knowing the craft was faulty and leaking and the company malignantly incompetent, so it's partly their fault, too, or at least they were necessary accomplices.

[–] [email protected] 30 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (1 children)

They gave Boeing the contract despite their obvious lack of experience in the area. There should be a forensic accounting, including any decision maker's finances, about this whole deal

The US Federal Government would be best served by ARMIES of independent accountants doing audits of all its business, and issuing CRIMINAL CHARGES for all fraud, graft, and corruption, wherever it's found.

Make it scary to give favors for bribes.

[–] [email protected] 18 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

"lack of experience in the area..."

Boeing dwarfs SpaceX in experience building spacecraft.

Mercury and Gemini spacecraft were both built by the McDonnell Corp. That company merged with the Douglas Aircraft company (which built the 3rd stage of the Saturn V rocket) becoming McDonnell Douglas in 1967, which merged into Boeing in 1997. Boeing itself co-manufactured the space shuttle orbiters with Rockwell.

On paper and judging from experience and history, if you were going to pick a single company to build a spacecraft, it would be them. Not some brand new company run by a space-obsessed software engineer.

Clearly Boeing has huge cultural issues and has for a while.

Just saying if you wanted to go off experience alone, they're the best there is.

[–] [email protected] 6 points 3 months ago

A company doesn't have experience. people have experience.
I can't imagine that the current Boeing would have kept the spaceflight experts on staff while not being used, so I don't imagine that they had any expertis when they began the project.

Likewise neither did NASA, because neoliberal policy had gutted them for much the same reasons, and is why they are pursuing the commercial space program.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 3 months ago (1 children)

You're right, I didn't realize all the merging that had occurred.

But clearly that legacy is gone. IDK who to trust with big space projects these days; it isn't Amazon, SpaceX, or Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

What commercial programs are supposed to do is have multiple competing companies. NASA doesn't want to rely on SpaceX or Boeing alone, or even NASA's own rocket building programs.

What we've gotten is:

  • NASA's rocket building program is an overpriced/overschedule boondoggle
  • Boeing needs to be taken out back and shot for the good of both space and atmospheric flight
  • SpaceX is fine for getting to LEO and the ISS
  • Russian Soyuz is a political land mine, and Russian manufacturing practices have gone to shit
  • Nobody else is fully capable at the moment

There's some up and commers around. Most will fail. Maybe one will work out and this will get back on track. It shouldn't just be SpaceX.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 3 months ago

Read the article.

Boeing might opt to cancel Starliner and leave NASA with just a single provider of crew transportation. That would be painful for both NASA and Boeing.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Because the knuckle heads that protest end up in the streets for things they cant ever change instead actual concrete problems they could change with pressure.