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[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from? Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view? Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

[–] [email protected] 44 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Is ActivityPub logging which IP I post from?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub monitoring which communities I view?

That depends on the implementation.

Is ActivityPub blocking me from browsing with my VPN on?

That—believe it or not—depends on the implementation.

[–] [email protected] 41 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

We already have an implementation. You me and OP are all on Lemmy. So can you answer these in the context of Lemmy again?

[–] [email protected] 28 points 4 months ago* (last edited 4 months ago) (2 children)

I actually can’t answer them, because I only admin this instance, I don’t run it.

While I’m sure this is not the case, it’s entirely possible that the people who do run this instance are running a fork of it that does all of those things. It couldn’t log your IP address or block your VPN, but it could mine, and your instance could yours. And I haven’t read the Lemmy source code, so I don’t know what even an unmodified Lemmy logs.

(Actually this instance is running a fork right now, or rather a branch: 0.19.6-beta1, because lemmy.ml is the core Lemmy developers’ instance for testing beta code before releasing production versions.)

[–] [email protected] 18 points 4 months ago

But you can read the source code and get an understanding of whether it is collecting private information or not. You can theoretically also fork the code and make your own version of Lemmy where you're ripped out the parts that collect private information. Can you do any of those things with Reddit? Absolutely not. You have no idea what exactly Reddit collects and even if you did you have no control over that collection.

What you're doing is questioning the privacy aspect without putting in the effort to check if your questioning is valid. Nobody is preventing you from reading the source code. And if you don't trust anyone else running the instance you can fork Lemmy, make whatever privacy changes you need and host your own instance. That goes beyond the capabilities of the average user but that's the catch with privacy, if you can't trust others then you have to learn more to get by without others.

[–] [email protected] 8 points 4 months ago

Many Lemmy instances block VPN posting. You can view, but not vote or post. I have a secondary private VPN I use sometimes for that. But honestly the whole thing just sucks.

[–] JackbyDev 3 points 4 months ago

ActivityPub does not share your IP with other instances, but of course, like all websites, your home instance can see your IP.

[–] [email protected] 15 points 4 months ago (3 children)

I got off lemmy.world because they block VPN connections. Not happening, under any circumstances. I don't trust anyone that much.

[–] [email protected] 5 points 4 months ago (3 children)

Is your IP passed on to other instances along with your post/comment?

[–] JackbyDev 5 points 4 months ago

No. ActivityPub does not share your IP with other instances.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 4 months ago

Nope, that info stays on the home instance.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

No idea. I installed a VPN on my router to get privacy. That's all I ask.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 4 months ago

Meanwhile I know lemmy instance that blocks most clearnet connections and can be accessed from tor and i2p

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (2 children)

Trust them with what though? What are you posting?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Did you just do the "if you don't have anything to hide, what's the big deal" move?

I want privacy. That's all.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

I'm just saying that you're literally making posts and comments specifically to be heard. What's getting obscured here?

[–] [email protected] 1 points 4 months ago (1 children)

Well, my ISP doesn't need to know anything about my posts. And the fediverse doesn't need to know who I am beyond "growingentropy," so...

[–] [email protected] 3 points 4 months ago

Ah yeah that makes sense.

[–] [email protected] 0 points 4 months ago

I have a router with a VPN. I'm not disabling that just to post on lemmy.world.