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Is hate speech against religious people acceptable? (lemmy.world)

submitted 1 year ago by [email protected] to c/[email protected]

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After the ban of the c/christians community for having a rule against LGBTQ+ content. I wonder where is the actual line of what is allowed and what is not on this instance. (https://lemmy.world/post/1762563)

There are plenty of instances allowing hate speech against religious people. Looking through them I can see how they can be pretty offensive for someone who was brought up religious.

For example [email protected].

From their description

No Pro-Religious or Anti-Atheist Content.

Some of the content:

To clarify, I do not feel offended, as I am in no capacity religious and I am an atheist also. I also do not ask for the removal of that community as I don't believe neither of the two should be removed.

But going through the content on atheistmemes the content there is far worse and more offending than it was on c/christians. While on c/christians only the rules where marginally breaking the rules, while there were no content that was in violation. This community in my opinion does both.

Allowing anti religion community while banning the pro religion one is creating a real deficit of different opinions here.

What is your opinion? Do you think that one should be allowed while the other not and why?

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[–] [email protected] 33 points 1 year ago* (last edited 1 year ago)

Precisely. They are banned for being intolerant, and any tolerant community must not tolerate the intolerant.

This is called the paradox of tolerance. If the tolerant people do not eliminate or rid themselves of the intolerant people then eventually the intolerant people will rise up and destroy the tolerant people. The only way to prevent either of those two extremes from happening is to not tolerate the intolerant.

If you fail to do that you cannot have a lasting tolerant community.

Plus I honestly want to know what the fuck these dumbass Christians think they're doing by ostracizing and excluding people from their community when by Christ's own teachings you're not supposed to do that.

He hung out with the tax collectors and the prostitutes and showed them love and acceptance and mercy and compassion and as Christians you are supposed to act like Christ so how about you stop finding reasons to hate and to wage non-violent culture wars or violent wars against people who you think are going to hell.

What do you achieve?

Do you think God's going to give you an extra shiny Gold pip star on your lapel because you bullied a trans person into committing suicide?

You think he's going to give you a pat on the back when you kick your child out of the house and disown them for being gay?

Any Christian that really thinks about it, just really takes just one good solid day to think about it would realize they're not being very Christian when they choose to hate.