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London in particular has a very transient local population - a lot of people move there for a few years then move on. Wikipedia has the city at ~50% 'overseas born' at the moment - it's a very cosmopolitan place. So having about double the number of tourists as 'residents' isn't going to have the same cultural impact that it would in some of the other cities here
I'm surprised that there's as many as 250k 'locals' in Venice, it was my understanding that they mostly live inland or up the coast and commute into the city.
Adding commuter numbers would be good too. There are other non tourist 'visitors' people in cities too.
There are parts of London which are hell to visit because they are overly popular with tourists. An example being borough market at lunch time, it's all tourists and you can't move. I don't begrudge anyone and I can happily just avoid it but it really makes me realise how hard it must be in the much smaller cities with higher ratios.
My wife went to Venice recently with her mum and said that the service staff were predominantly South Asian, so I wonder how much of that 250k is immigrant population there to service the huge tourism industry.