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[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago (1 children)

... in north America.

My experience in Europe where the EV infrastructure is more developed, long trip are not an issue. I don't even plan my trip, I just go and charge when I need it.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago* (last edited 3 months ago) (2 children)

Edit, wording

Still a 8h driving day will require more charging time than gas refill time, regardless of how many chargers there are.

Acknowledged on your planning point, that's a huge improvement.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Still a 8h driving day will require more charging time than gas refill time,

Sure. Nobody disputes that.

But it's a very small percentage of the population who drives like that.

And for much of the rest of the people, an EV can be a viable option.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Right but north Americans get closer, much more regularly.

The point of my comment was to strip away any notion of region or everyday use, and only focus on energy... Density per hour driving, and the available habits of refueling via whatever source.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago (1 children)

In the uk the woodland trust are.putting chargers into car parks so you can atop on a long drive for.a walk in the woods, it's great for those rare long journeies and can tie in with lunch perfectly.

Supermarkets and similar are doing the same so you can shop and charge at the same time. Were going to see more of this as infrastructure improves and roll out continues, rather than adding time fueling electric cars for most people will remove the need to ever make a stop just to fill up.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Totally, that's great

But I'm discussing the situation where you have 8h of pure movement to complete. Every stop is a burden. Currently fueling a gas car takes easily less than 10 minutes, and with 2 people both can use the restroom and prepare the car in 15, generously.

I'm not saying thats an every day thing. I'm just discussing the differences between ev and ice cars right now, regarding the pace of a long journey.

In my opinion, currently, the "perfect" garage would have an EV for local travel which is used regularly, and an ice car for long journeys.

The "perfect" choices, if available, would be ev in the garage, rent an ice car for long trips.

The "middle ground" I'm interested in personally is a hybrid, but I'm in no need of replacing my vehicles currently.