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My brother claims that Vanguard for League can do the same to gaming PCs that install it as CrowdStrike did to businesses who installed that, is this true? Does Vanguard have as much access/power? (lemm.ee)

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[–] Piatro 38 points 3 months ago (2 children)

Helldivers 2 does the same thing. If this continues it will be extremely advisable to move any non-gaming use-cases to a different computer as you have no idea what the "anti-cheat" is doing with that level of authority over your computer.

[–] [email protected] 25 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Or just dont buy those games.

[–] Piatro 8 points 3 months ago (3 children)

That works until all* games come with root level anti cheat. It was the same with micro transactions which people still defend despite being utter shit.

Realistically this will never be 100% but it will be enough of the mass market AAA games like CoD etc to mean that if you functionally want to play a game made in the last X number of years you will need to accept this or stop playing games altogether. I think most people will continue to play games. Most people will continue to install root level anti cheat, knowingly or otherwise, and all of them will get fucked by an exploit of that software. They may never even know about it.

[–] [email protected] 4 points 3 months ago

This is pretty much what I’m afraid of. Even my knowledgeable friends dismissed the implications of a root kit so they could play Helldivers. Like 2 months later and they’re sick of it, and the damage is done. That game was a massive success despite what should have stopped everyone in their tracks.

[–] [email protected] 3 points 3 months ago

That's why piracy must continue, pirates cracking can just extend to pulling those pesky anticheats out of the single player games.

[–] [email protected] 2 points 3 months ago

I think that's the point that I start just eating the performance hit and running those games in sandboxed VMs where possible

[–] [email protected] 11 points 3 months ago (1 children)

I play HD2 under proton. Even if there is a rootkit, it's sandboxed.

[–] [email protected] 7 points 3 months ago (1 children)

Proton is not actually sandboxed the way an actual container is.

A) if the program running in proton was given root access in some way, say by tricking people into entering their root password for a claimed update, it would have complete normal control of your entire system just like normal.

B)apps running in proton still have access to the regular file system.

Wine isn't an emulator or a vm.

[–] [email protected] 1 points 3 months ago

Wait. WINE is not an emulator?! Why didn't anyone try to tell me? 😂